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If the Mavs win the year he is the best player in the league - this is the real season - not monday night in December - if the heat when the James is the best but dirk needs to be recognized as atop 5 all time PF and comparing Garnett to him is like comparing one dollar bill to a cnote
 

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to 5 scoring pf of all time. scoring is really the only part of his game. but he is damn good at it
 

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Great scorer but he doesn't have the defense to be involved in the all-time discussion.
 

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He is like TD was on offense - go to him every time in the 4th - dude is clutch like Kobe
 

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Oh yeah sorry ass Garnett is better - dude never made a meaningful basket in his life and Barkely was a real defensive wizard
 

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He is like TD was on offense - go to him every time in the 4th - dude is clutch like Kobe

Not sure why, but I thought of Terry Dehere before Duncan when trying to figure out "TD". Can't say I've thought about Dehere for a long long while.
 

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I don't see anyone abusing him on defense

TD, KM, Dirk, CB and KMchale in that order
 

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I don't see anyone abusing him on defense

TD, KM, Dirk, CB and KMchale in that order

No old-timers like Bob Pettit or Elvin Hayes? Even guys like Dennis Rodman have cases to be ranked ahead of Dirk IMO. It's pretty jumbled after Duncan...
 

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Dirk was one of the few that learned and took motivation from past playoff disappointments. Many who were mentioned never did...especially that dam McGrady.
 

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Iverson, McGrady and Carter were great scorers but this dude is clutch like the greats of all time

Are you talking about clutch just for this season or of all time.... because the year he won the MVP he didn't help Dallas at all. As a matter of fact, he was the reason that they were losing and many thought he should have returned his MVP trophy.
 

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Great scorer but he doesn't have the defense to be involved in the all-time discussion.

Duncan, Malone, Barkley, Garnett, Pettit. I wouldn't put him in the top five, but if we are going to discuss the five best in history, Nowitzki absolutely has to be included. And if the Mavs keep winning, it will be a lot harder to not put him with those last couple names
 

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Not sure why, but I thought of Terry Dehere before Duncan when trying to figure out "TD". Can't say I've thought about Dehere for a long long while.

Terry Dehere :):)

might of been better than me. my first thought was touchdown?
 

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Duncan, Malone, Barkley, Garnett, Pettit. I wouldn't put him in the top five, but if we are going to discuss the five best in history, Nowitzki absolutely has to be included. And if the Mavs keep winning, it will be a lot harder to not put him with those last couple names

malone x2, shawn kemp, mchale, webber, rodman
 
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Actually, until this year Dirk was considered a choker in the playoffs.

He hasn't earned the right yet to be considered better than Kevin Garnett. Garnett in his prime was both
an offensive and defensive machine. Dirk is not.
 

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Actually, until this year Dirk was considered a choker in the playoffs.

He hasn't earned the right yet to be considered better than Kevin Garnett. Garnett in his prime was both
an offensive and defensive machine. Dirk is not.

have to agree
 

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It doesn't matter if you don't play defense when you can score like that.

Defense wins rings. Dirk has none. I don't agree. You have to be able to score and defend if you want to win it all.
 

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