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Black Former NFL Player Pulled Over For Looking Like Someone ‘Transporting Drugs And Guns’



By Scott Keyes and Tanya Somanader on May 31, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Last week, former NFL star Warrick Dunn was pulled over outside Atlanta, Georgia by three police officers. Dunn has been involved in a number of charitable organizations since leaving the NFL, including founding the Warrick Dunn Family Foundation to help single parents find homes for their families. The former Atlanta Falcons running back has also received numerous accolades for his off-the-field service, including the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award, the Bart Starr Award, and former President Clinton’s Giant Steps Award. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution described Dunn as a “model citizen.”


So it was to Dunn’s surprise when he was stopped by police officers last Friday for having “the characteristic of people transporting drugs and guns.” Dunn, who is a 36-year-old black man, was also stopped for having tinted windows that were allegedly “too dark.” Dunn reported the incident on his Facebook account late last week:
Pulled over outside Atl because he said my window tint was too dark. During the stop he asked a lot of personal questions, said I had the characteristics of people transporting drugs & guns. So he searched my car and gave me a warning for my tint. Felt violated and I’ve had my car since ’08, nvr been pulled ovr for tint. Taken back bc I think the reasoning was bad. Ruined my day but not my spirit.
Despite the alleged rationale of illegally tinted windows, Dunn wrote that “my tint is not dark.” In addition, “it was cloudy and [the police were] 20 yards behind at an angle.”


Dunn was not charged in the stop, but ultimately received a warning from the officers.





The former NFL player’s ordeal is one that is already felt by many across the nation. Yet if conservatives had their way, profiling incidents like Dunn’s would not just become more commonplace, but would be legally justified as well. Indeed, racial and ethnic profiling is widely supported by Republicans. Last year, Rep. Steve King (R-IA) called profiling “common sense” and Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) justified it on the grounds that “all terrorists are Muslims or Middle Easterners.”


But the GOP’s push to profile necessarily stems from the idea that such “common sense” is not actually racist. To Republicans like former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson, racism no longer exists. To him, America is inherently “colorblind” and “not a discriminate [sic] nation” because, after all, “we elected a black president.” In fact, a recent study reveals that white Americans actually view “anti-white prejudice” as the predominant race problem of the times, as opposed to “anti-black bias.”



With this as the dominant view, the racism Dunn endured is too often perceived by many Americans as belonging to an era long gone and existing only in the margins of today’s society — no matter how prevalent.
 

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My car windows are limo black and I have never been pulled over for that. Unreal, so when they do find something on someone that is DWB are they gonna use that as the probable cause to stop the car??? He fit the characteristics of someone transporting guns and drugs? I really don't think that is a legal reason to stop anyone????
 

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A distinction should be made between "Reasonable Cause" and "Probable Cause" when it comes to cops stopping vehicles.

If there is "Reasonable Cause" to believe that the driver is violating one or more traffic statutes and/or criminal laws, it provides a legal pretext for the stop.

In order to do a search of person and/or vehicle without first receiving the consent of the driver (or other search targets), the police must have "Probable Cause" to believe that a crime (misdemeanor or felony) is in progress.

The standards of proof for the latter are much higher than for the former.

Thus police can "reasonably" believe that the window tint is darker than legally permitted under state traffic statutes and initiate the legal traffic stop.

They cannot then (as they did with Dunn and his vehicle) proceed to search without Dunn's consent until they have Probable Cause to believe a crime is being committed.

Most such PC demands visible and/or auditory evidence in "plain view", for example.

Thus police cannot see a NORML bumper sticker and have PC to search for (illegal) marijuana.

However, if upon initiating a legal stop they can view marijuana in plain sight, they can then proceed with a search of the vehicle, the driver and in most cases the passengers. They cannot (again in most cases) also proceed to search a private purse, handbag or briefcase unless it belongs to the driver.
 

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This is just business as usual if you're a black male.

I get pulled over 2 times a month on average by Louisiana/Texas State troopers for some BS (i.e. the car slightly swerved) and am never given a ticket.

Most recently, it happened Monday when the TX State trooper outright lied about me not changing lanes without signaling (I clearly used the signal). Then he pulls me over, asks me a bunch of questions, pats me down, then let's me go with no ticket.
 

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As good a man as you'll find. Disappointing to hear.
 

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This is just business as usual if you're a black male.

I get pulled over 2 times a month on average by Louisiana/Texas State troopers for some BS (i.e. the car slightly swerved) and am never given a ticket.

Most recently, it happened Monday when the TX State trooper outright lied about me not changing lanes without signaling (I clearly used the signal). Then he pulls me over, asks me a bunch of questions, pats me down, then let's me go with no ticket.

Ayuh.....many of my legal and civil liberties friends down your way (LA & TX) tell me that it's still fairly customary for cops in that East Tx I20 corridor (especially from local agencies, rather than THP) to seek out the minor crimes. They jail you under unreasonable bail (relatively......like $5K instead of $1K etc). And then they release you with instructions to return for trial OR not appear and that's a default NoContest wherein they keep the $500-1000 received when the bond is posted.

Most people don't return, so they're convicted of a low level misdemeanor, sentenced to time served and money seized.
 

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since his windows were tinted, they may not have known the color of his skin

I'm also thinking he gave them approval to search his car, since he had nothing to hide

I think he must have also been driving a very very expensive sports car with tinted windows, something not many people drive

having said all that, it doesn't pass the smell test and I don't like it
 

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