Yankees send Ivan Nova to Triple-A to make room for Phil Hughes

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A four-game winning streak wasn’t enough to save Ivan Nova‘s roster spot.

In spite of the rookie right-hander’s recent success, he was shipped back to Triple-A on Sunday, with reliever Lance Pendleton coming up to claim his spot. Phil Hughes is expected to come off the DL on Wednesday to take over in the rotation.

Nova was coming off a win over the Mets on Friday in which he allowed one run in five innings. The Yankees had won each of his last five starts, with the 24-year-old going 4-0 with a 3.41 ERA in the process. For the season, Nova was 8-4 with a 4.12 ERA.

Still, unless the Yankees decided to suddenly reverse course and send Hughes to the pen, either Nova or Freddy Garcia had to go. Were the Yankees forced to pick one of the two for the rest of the season, they probably would have chosen Nova. But Garcia has pitched plenty well enough to stick around, having amassed a 3.28 ERA in 85 innings, and unlike Nova, he wasn’t going to be a phone call away in Triple-A if he had been jettisoned.
 

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So clueless.
Cashman, Girardi, and the rest are so very clueless.

Hughes despite winning 18 games with smoke, mirrors, and 193 runs a game in run support is not, nor never will be an elite starter, or even a good #2 starter.
I've said numerous times, Hughes has crappy work ethics, is DL waiting to happen.

You wait, if he gets 14 starts the rest of the season, his earned run average will be 4.50 +.
 

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I'm a die hard NYY fan, I don't get, or will ever get the 'hard on' this organisation has from Phil Hughes.
he's not a money pitcher, never will be a money pitcher.

Texas Rangers made Hughes their personal meat puppet in the Championship Series.
He never made it out of the sixth inning in Game 2 and Game 6.
He went 0-2 in that series with an earned run average of 11 +

He went 18-8 only because he had the NYY bats supporting him, that was an 11-14 season on any other team.
 
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Nova has put in work this year. I believe this kid will be a pretty good starter in the future if not right now. Sure as fuck better then Hughes that kid is a gas can. Bum deal for Nova I will be rooting for this kid to be back in majors this year.
 

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I'm a die hard NYY fan, I don't get, or will ever get the 'hard on' this organisation has from Phil Hughes.
he's not a money pitcher, never will be a money pitcher.

Texas Rangers made Hughes their personal meat puppet in the Championship Series.
He never made it out of the sixth inning in Game 2 and Game 6.
He went 0-2 in that series with an earned run average of 11 +

He went 18-8 only because he had the NYY bats supporting him, that was an 11-14 season on any other team.

Phil the yr before had NO NO vs Texas when he left with obliguq injury. I watched hime come up in Tampa and He's got the stuff to be a #2 strater very easily. HEW WON 18, enough said, tough for any MLB pitcher. He was DOMINATING early on in season,but he fadedb/c he has never thrown that many innings before.NYY brass has been careful with his pitch count and innings his entire career. HE IS A GREAT TALENT, seen him dominate many games.DOMINATED as setup guy after injury, but last yr he faded b/c of the innings. I belive MORE WORK AND BUILDING ARMS like NOLAN RYAN did will payoff for any pitcher.You run more you build endurance, you lift heavier weight or do more reps, you get stronger, plain and simple.
 

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Nova has put in work this year. I believe this kid will be a pretty good starter in the future if not right now. Sure as fuck better then Hughes that kid is a gas can. Bum deal for Nova I will be rooting for this kid to be back in majors this year.

Nova has option to be sentdown and recalled, Garcia or Colon can't, the have no options.
 
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Nova has option to be sentdown and recalled, Garcia or Colon can't, the have no options.

With that being said I guess it was a pretty good move to send him down. Garcia and Colon has been huge surprises to say the least. I do believe they have to see what Hughes can do and if it is not good then they can shut him down for the year and bring Nova back.-
 

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Phil the yr before had NO NO vs Texas when he left with obliguq injury. I watched hime come up in Tampa and He's got the stuff to be a #2 strater very easily. HEW WON 18, enough said, tough for any MLB pitcher. He was DOMINATING early on in season,but he fadedb/c he has never thrown that many innings before.NYY brass has been careful with his pitch count and innings his entire career. HE IS A GREAT TALENT, seen him dominate many games.DOMINATED as setup guy after injury, but last yr he faded b/c of the innings. I belive MORE WORK AND BUILDING ARMS like NOLAN RYAN did will payoff for any pitcher.You run more you build endurance, you lift heavier weight or do more reps, you get stronger, plain and simple.


Many big league scouts say Hughes has the worst work ethics out of any player.
He's lazy.

Ian Kennedy is going to the all star game, Cashman knew Hughes is lazy, but fell in love with his fastball, most scouts would have told him to keep Kennedy, move Hughes.

I'm bumping this thread in two months when either 1) he's 3 and 5, or 2) he's back on the DL
 

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I think this thread is bump worthy now.

Phil Hughes Rocked again and give up 6ers in 2 2/3rd innings of work.

That's how he won 18 games, (he won't get credit for the win today, the solid as usual bull pen will) but whenever Hughes pitches, NYY scores 128 run on 178 hits every start)
 

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Not sure about keeping Kennedy over Hughes. Of course Kennedy has proved to be better - but he didn't seem to like NY and the pressure that came with it. Even if Kennedy did end up blossoming in NY - you'd have to take Granderson out of the equation. This season you're looking at a 4.3 WAR for Kennedy and 5.3 for Curtis. Pretty even there. I'm leaving Austin Jackson out of the equation because with Grandy he wouldn't have a spot on NY. Maybe the deal for Grandy still gets done with Hughes - but I didn't see Kennedy getting any better in NY.

Probably couldn't get a bag of baseballs for Hughes now. I'd much rather have Hughes back in the pen where he was much more effective.
 

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YES, WHAT did he do previous 4 starts!!!!!, evey pitcher has bad outings, he has been on of late.Perhaps Oak has his number, 2 games.

Nodody expects CC performances from PHIL, only fickle fans who cry with bad outing, but never congrat or prise with 4 amazing games ina row before this. HATE people like that, FH
 

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I don't know, just asking but how do Hughes and Nova contracts compare? If they try to send Hughes down to AAA can he be claimed?

Not sure how all that works or if it is part of the equation here.
 

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nova will be back

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Good Luck on Chicago Ivan



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</header>LAS VEGAS — The White Sox have crossed one item off their offseason to-do list.


The South Siders acquired starting pitcher Ivan Nova in a trade with the Pittsburgh Pirates on Tuesday, plugging one of the two holes in their starting rotation. In exchange, the White Sox sent pitching prospect Yordi Rosario and international signing bonus pool money.
The White Sox needed to add a pair of starting pitchers this winter, what with Michael Kopech slated to miss the entire 2019 season while recovering from Tommy John surgery and James Shields departed via free agency. Adding Nova accomplishes that goal, also adding a veteran presence to a young starting staff that only featured Carlos Rodon, Reynaldo Lopez and Lucas Giolito.
Nova has just one year of team control remaining on his current contract, meaning he will be a short-term solution, likely a one-year fill-in while the White Sox wait on Kopech’s recovery and Dylan Cease’s development in the minor leagues, rather than a long-term piece of the rebuilding White Sox future. But he could bring a ton of value as a clubhouse mentor, similar to the role that Shields played last season.
Nova, who turns 32 next month, hasn’t found a great deal of statistical success of late. After posting a 3.10 ERA with the New York Yankees in 2013, he owns a 4.44 ERA in the five seasons since with the Yankees and Pirates. In his three seasons in Pittsburgh, he posted a 3.99 ERA. But he has a greater value to the White Sox, not expected to contend for a playoff spot in 2019, as someone who can take the ball every fifth day, eat up innings and help out the young South Side bullpen. Nova logged 161 innings last season with the Pirates.
Certainly the White Sox are not done, still needing to fill another spot in the rotation, as well as to make additions in the bullpen, at catcher and in the outfield. And that’s all independent of their reported pursuits of mega free agents Bryce Harper and Manny Machado. But they’ve filled one need with this move.
 

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