It sounds good for now but I will not get excited until I see a pre-season game with players running up & down the field.
I agree Sean, they will.
But that's the advantage of owning your own business, and one of the sole purposes, to make money.
Let any one of us walk up to our boss and tell him we want a big raise and a percentage of the profits he's making, and see what he tells us.
And the thing if, if we were making millions already, we wouldn't even need to demand more of our own boss' profits.
Have to put the shoe on the other foot.
What if you started a business, and your employers came to you demaning part of, or more of your profits.
If they want more money, then they need to save what they have, and start their own business, just as their owner did...
Sides 'down to the details' in finalizing agreement..
WASHINGTON -- The NFL and NFLPA are 'down to the details' in finalizing a 10-year agreement to end the four-month-old lockout.
[video]http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6796160&categoryid=2378529[/video]
The negotiators started work early Sunday morning after a day of very productive negotiations on Saturday. After some of last week's turbulence, the NFLPA put its 13-man executive committee and 32 player reps on standby for Monday, depending on the progress made over the weekend. Late Saturday night, after the day's progress in talks, the trade association put in place plans for the executive committee to travel to Washington, D.C. and meet on Monday.
During Monday's meeting, the executive committee members will look over the potential deal. Assuming the committee recommends approval of the deal, it would be passed on to the 32 player reps for a vote, likely done by conference call. An affirmative vote there would go to the 10 named plaintiffs in Brady v. the NFL for approval.
On Saturday, the parties used personal phone calls, email communication and conference calls to regain some momentum that was lost Thursday and continued driving toward a resolution that could save the four full weeks of preseason games, with the Hall of Fame Game already canceled. They addressed topics such as workers' compensation, injury protection in contracts, a potential opt-out clause in the deal and, most pointedly, the potential timeline for the reforming of the NFL Players Association as a union. In addition, the NFL's labor committee, which has negotiated with the NFLPA's executive committee throughout, held a Saturday afternoon conference call to discuss the remaining issues.
Sources involved in the negotiations told NFL Network insider La Canfora that they believe it's possible the league year will start by Wednesday and training camps could open by Friday. Depending on the timing of a full agreement being reached and a judge signing off on a global settlement, it's also possible that free agency and training camp could open simultaneously, sources said. Owners would have to sign off on the new collective bargaining agreement language, too.
Two votes, neither of which amounted to a deal, have taken place in the last four days. On Wednesday, the NFLPA empowered its executive committee, lawyers and executive director, DeMaurice Smith, to work out a deal, so long as certain conditions were met. On Thursday, the NFL passed a comprehensive proposal 31-0, but that rankled scores of players who believed the league had framed it as a deal to put pressure on the other side.
It seems as if cooler heads have prevailed. Smith and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell have been in constant contact since the players and owners last met face to face, on July 15 in New York, and spoke just before the owners took that vote Thursday.
And even before talks Saturday, another problem was evaporating.
Earlier in the day, it was learned that the league no longer needed to worry about placating the named plaintiffs in the Brady antitrust lawsuit. Requests for concessions for numerous players -- including but not limited to San Diego Chargers wide receiver Vincent Jackson and New England Patriots guard Logan Mankins -- loomed earlier in the week. But Jackson and Mankins dropped their demands for $10 million to settle the suit against the league, leaving fewer obstacles to a new CBA that would end the four-month-old NFL lockout.
The form in which post-recertification issues would be attacked was discussed Saturday. From a legal standpoint, topics such as benefits (including drug testing) and player discipline cannot be negotiated until after the NFLPA re-forms as a union. The idea, for now, is that the parties will pick up talks on those subjects where they left off in March, when the NFLPA was still a union and negotiations were held at the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service in Washington.
And that topic -- the actual reformation of the union -- has been a hot one over the past few days. The players have concerns over how a hastened recertification process would affect their ability to act legally in any future labor disputes, particularly if the league did choose to assert that a future decertification was a "sham," as it did earlier this year.
The major economic framework for a 10-year deal was worked out a week ago. That included how the $9 billion-plus in annual league revenues will be divided (about 53 percent to owners and 47 percent to players over the next decade; the old CBA resulted in nearly a 50-50 split); a per-club cap of about $120 million for salary and bonuses in 2011 -- and at least that in 2012 and 2013 -- plus about $22 million in benefits; a salary system to rein in spending on first-round draft picks; and unrestricted free agency for most players after four seasons.
Goodell and league owners expressed hope Thursday night that their 31-0 vote -- the Oakland Raiders abstained -- to approve the proposed CBA would lead to a speedy resolution to the NFL's first work stoppage since 1987. They called it an equitable deal that improves player safety and allows the sport to prosper even more.
"It is time to get back to football," Goodell said.
But even when players decide they're OK with a final agreement, their approval process is more complicated than the owners' was. The 32 player reps will have to recommend accepting the settlement. Then the 10 named plaintiffs -- including Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees -- in the antitrust suit must officially inform the court of their approval.
Eventually, all 1,900 players would take a majority vote to approve returning the NFLPA to union status. When talks broke down in March, allowing the old CBA to expire, the players dissolved the union, turning the NFLPA into a trade association. That's what allowed the players to sue the owners in federal court under antitrust law.
NFL.com
WASHINGTON -- The NFL and NFLPA are 'down to the details' in finalizing a 10-year agreement to end the four-month-old lockout.
[video]http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6796160&categoryid=2378529[/video]
The negotiators started work early Sunday morning after a day of very productive negotiations on Saturday. After some of last week's turbulence, the NFLPA put its 13-man executive committee and 32 player reps on standby for Monday, depending on the progress made over the weekend. Late Saturday night, after the day's progress in talks, the trade association put in place plans for the executive committee to travel to Washington, D.C. and meet on Monday.
During Monday's meeting, the executive committee members will look over the potential deal. Assuming the committee recommends approval of the deal, it would be passed on to the 32 player reps for a vote, likely done by conference call. An affirmative vote there would go to the 10 named plaintiffs in Brady v. the NFL for approval.
On Saturday, the parties used personal phone calls, email communication and conference calls to regain some momentum that was lost Thursday and continued driving toward a resolution that could save the four full weeks of preseason games, with the Hall of Fame Game already canceled. They addressed topics such as workers' compensation, injury protection in contracts, a potential opt-out clause in the deal and, most pointedly, the potential timeline for the reforming of the NFL Players Association as a union. In addition, the NFL's labor committee, which has negotiated with the NFLPA's executive committee throughout, held a Saturday afternoon conference call to discuss the remaining issues.
Sources involved in the negotiations told NFL Network insider La Canfora that they believe it's possible the league year will start by Wednesday and training camps could open by Friday. Depending on the timing of a full agreement being reached and a judge signing off on a global settlement, it's also possible that free agency and training camp could open simultaneously, sources said. Owners would have to sign off on the new collective bargaining agreement language, too.
Two votes, neither of which amounted to a deal, have taken place in the last four days. On Wednesday, the NFLPA empowered its executive committee, lawyers and executive director, DeMaurice Smith, to work out a deal, so long as certain conditions were met. On Thursday, the NFL passed a comprehensive proposal 31-0, but that rankled scores of players who believed the league had framed it as a deal to put pressure on the other side.
It seems as if cooler heads have prevailed. Smith and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell have been in constant contact since the players and owners last met face to face, on July 15 in New York, and spoke just before the owners took that vote Thursday.
And even before talks Saturday, another problem was evaporating.
Earlier in the day, it was learned that the league no longer needed to worry about placating the named plaintiffs in the Brady antitrust lawsuit. Requests for concessions for numerous players -- including but not limited to San Diego Chargers wide receiver Vincent Jackson and New England Patriots guard Logan Mankins -- loomed earlier in the week. But Jackson and Mankins dropped their demands for $10 million to settle the suit against the league, leaving fewer obstacles to a new CBA that would end the four-month-old NFL lockout.
The form in which post-recertification issues would be attacked was discussed Saturday. From a legal standpoint, topics such as benefits (including drug testing) and player discipline cannot be negotiated until after the NFLPA re-forms as a union. The idea, for now, is that the parties will pick up talks on those subjects where they left off in March, when the NFLPA was still a union and negotiations were held at the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service in Washington.
And that topic -- the actual reformation of the union -- has been a hot one over the past few days. The players have concerns over how a hastened recertification process would affect their ability to act legally in any future labor disputes, particularly if the league did choose to assert that a future decertification was a "sham," as it did earlier this year.
The major economic framework for a 10-year deal was worked out a week ago. That included how the $9 billion-plus in annual league revenues will be divided (about 53 percent to owners and 47 percent to players over the next decade; the old CBA resulted in nearly a 50-50 split); a per-club cap of about $120 million for salary and bonuses in 2011 -- and at least that in 2012 and 2013 -- plus about $22 million in benefits; a salary system to rein in spending on first-round draft picks; and unrestricted free agency for most players after four seasons.
Goodell and league owners expressed hope Thursday night that their 31-0 vote -- the Oakland Raiders abstained -- to approve the proposed CBA would lead to a speedy resolution to the NFL's first work stoppage since 1987. They called it an equitable deal that improves player safety and allows the sport to prosper even more.
"It is time to get back to football," Goodell said.
But even when players decide they're OK with a final agreement, their approval process is more complicated than the owners' was. The 32 player reps will have to recommend accepting the settlement. Then the 10 named plaintiffs -- including Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees -- in the antitrust suit must officially inform the court of their approval.
Eventually, all 1,900 players would take a majority vote to approve returning the NFLPA to union status. When talks broke down in March, allowing the old CBA to expire, the players dissolved the union, turning the NFLPA into a trade association. That's what allowed the players to sue the owners in federal court under antitrust law.
NFL.com
This comparasion to the real world is so stupid. I remembering hearing it all the time when Lateral Sprewell choked PJ. Everyone goes, they would be fired. While that would be true, tell me what job your boss can say to you, what the fuck are you doing out there, getting your fucking ass back on defense. I don't know what job fines $25000 for saying something about a 3rd party (the officials). You can't compare the real world with sports. What job has someone trying to take your head off, when you run. The players deserve everything they get. They are the reason people watch the games. If the owners don't like them, get replacements and then trying selling your product. So many players wind up with so many injuries that when they are done playing, many in their mid 30s and 40s move around like they are in their 60s and 70s.
When you are really good at what you do this happens all the time. i.e A sales executive that brokers billion dollar deals or a lawyer working a for a firm with huge list of clients.
The fact is the players are the product the owners are selling so they have way more say. Without the players there is no business or product. How many people can say that they are that important to a company?
im not so sure about this
The players’ executive committee will meet Monday in Washington after lawyers have worked through the weekend on issues that are holding up an agreement with the owners. Several people with knowledge of the meeting have told The Associated Press that no vote to recommend a deal is certain Monday
The players’ executive committee will meet Monday in Washington after lawyers have worked through the weekend on issues that are holding up an agreement with the owners. Several people with knowledge of the meeting have told The Associated Press that no vote to recommend a deal is certain Monday
