Red Sox Despite Weaknesses, Won't Be Stopped By Yankees

FatHarry · Aug 16, 2011

Despite all their weaknesses, and more importantly the worst trade in years, that is getting Crawford, the Red Sox will find away to beat the Yankees this year. When the smoke clears, the Red Sox simply are getting outstanding play from guys who never figured to "come through" time and time again. Crawford, what a bust out, combined with Youklis (who needs to give it up) are nothing more than overpaid guys who for whatever reason are jusy NOT getting it done. Despite their presence in the lineup, moreso Crawford, its amazing how the Red Sox just keep coming. Yankee fans have a long wait, and other than Granderson and one or two more, this Yankee team, will never overcome the Red Sox, muchless beat Texas when it counts. Rangers are simply awesome! Steinbrenner must be rolloing over daily in his grave.

P.S. Without Sabathia, the Yankees would be in serious trouble! Jeter, Cano and Rodriguez, are soon to be memories. Nunez is the worst defensive infielder in Yankee history!

ReBorn · Aug 16, 2011

Fat Harry,...I respect and follow your plays,...but....u are way off here. We agree to disagree. Yanks lineup is just as deep as the RedSox. Score run in bunches without ARod in the lineup. Chavez can start anywhere. Swisher has been on a tear, moving his avg from .212 to .269 in less than 60 days. Give Nunez a break, that won't be the case in the near future. U forgot about Gardner, another guy who has been on a tear with speed to boot. Texeira's numbers are deceiving. Even though he is only batting .245 right now, look at his OBP and RBI's. Russell is a decent catcher. Cervelli is like Sojo as in he is guaranteed clutch when people are on base. Put Jeter and Cano in the mix. Pitching is little worries but nothing drastic. How could you say will never overcome the RedSox??? I think thats a very bold statement. The Yanks have 73 wins, nothing to sneaze at. They have 73 wins for a reason. Bullpen is better this year. Nova/Colon/Garcia been a very pleasent surprise. still have the best closer in the game. Robertson could be one of the best setup guys this year. We won't have to wait long at all because we have a great farm system. Again Fat Harry, this is not me being a jerkoff in anyway. Just a "agree to disagree" convo. Its a long season and a great one so far. Can't wait for it to unfold down the stretch.

PatsFanatic · Aug 16, 2011

Im sure you know crawford was a FA signing and a big $ one at that. But i agree too much for someone you don't have a spot for. Our 2 hitter was already better and you don't need a speedy gold glove in left field. Look how well Manny played it lol. I have to believe it was a play by Theo to keep him away from NY but i doubt the Yanks were even willing to spend that kinda money on him.

I think you are wrong about Youk. Look at his numbers they are not that bad and this is a down year for him. He has LOTS of baseball left in him! To even think of him being done is crazy.

Winning the division means nothing...someone is going to have to take care of Texas and i hope its the yanks who will have to do it.

ReBorn · Aug 16, 2011

@patsfanatic:: I agree about Youkalis. He will definitly turn it around

DimmmIsBack · Aug 16, 2011

Rebornnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn WHAT UP BROOOOO

T-CANE · Aug 16, 2011

FH, what you been smoking??, TEX,CG,CANO all top 4 in rbi's. GRNADY MVP right now, CANO N TEX both on pace for 120 rbis, Tex with 33 hr;s, CANO over .300 , 21 hrs, over 80 rbis, great clove, SOON TO BE MEMORY?? young star is more like it, CC CY YOUNG is a great #1, Nova is young star, Colon has been amazing and FG steady, HUGHES now rounding into form, 94 on fb again, worked his arm issues out. NYY PEN IS SICK, MO IS MO, Roberston is great setup guy, one of the best in mlb in 2011, Soriano since retrun has been money, best trio to close a game in MLB!!
Jeter has been on fire since his return, YANKS SCORING W/O AROD and Swish is money, Posada has been hot, Gardner is great speed and steady hitter.
Our fram has #1,#2,#4 cathing prospects in baseball, MONTERO, ROMINE, SANCHEZ, and 2 more guys who will be on this list next yr in MURPHY, Isias TEJADA, 20 and 18 yr old kids, SANCHEZ is 18 as well I can go over our arms in minors as well with starts like BETANCES, BANUELOS, WARREN, NOESI, MITCHELL, PHELPS, HALL, STONEBURNER, HEREDIA, BRACKMAN, ETC..

I see many weak pts for sox vs Yanks, but not going to type anymore

ReBorn · Aug 16, 2011

@T-Cane:: Thank you haha. I'm with u 150% on this one

FatHarry · Aug 16, 2011

Gentlemen- I knew when I typed this I would deemed to be insane. I respect all of you, however, I can't wait to bet on Texas vs. the Yankees, regardless what the situation may be when the games become the most meaningful. Yes, they are all meaningful, but Texas will hit every pitcher the Yankees have, and coming from a guy who believes good pitching will beat good hitting, I can't stomach that re: this situation. True, Texas, pitching wise, may not be as strong as either the Yankees or the Red Sox. But I rate these teams as I type 1. Boston 2. Texas 3. Yankees.

The Yankees can't play every game in that stadium custom built for their hitters. But if the Yankee pitching does not hold up (Sabathia alone can't win a war),and trust me Colon and Nova are two who have never faced real pressure, they won't beat Boston, or Texas. I won't need a offshore book, to fly to Nevada to buy all the Boston and Texas I can, when they meet the Bronx Tale Bombers! Just as a tidbit, if you think Hughes is ready and able to beat these two teams, think again. He is a real head case according to even some of the most loyal Yankee diehards. Lets calm down and like always, put our money in the window when its time. To all Red Sox fans I say, never fear New York, the real serpent lies in Texas.

T-CANE · Aug 16, 2011

SO tell me about that great pen the soc have??, or starters besides Beckett. TW HA-HA, NO dicek, no Clay B, Bedard sucks, Lester is good #2,but who else is reliable come playoff time??? Lackey sucks and worse than COLON or Garcia or Nova. b os has 2 pitchers AND PEN NOT EVEN CLOS TO NYY, think again.
NYY OWNED TEX since 90's until ly, now you think Yanks can't beat them -LOL

reservoirdog · Aug 16, 2011

It comes down to pitching at the end...I do not think TX can duplicate LY b/c of heat - no dome (wtf are they thinking) & right now favors Bosox

FatHarry · Aug 16, 2011

reservoirdog- "FAVORS BOSOX"....I agree! Can you imagine Colon breathing in that humidity. The Yankee bullpen better be ready! Phil Hughes, why did he need a break....was he at Bellview?

T-CANE · Aug 16, 2011

bOSTON starters, BECKETT, 9-5 2.44, LESTER 12-6 3.22, BEDARD, 0-0- 4.50, WAKEFIELD 6-5 4.90, LACKEY 11-8 6.13, really scarey stuff 3-5 hereROFLMAO.
PEN, Papelbon 4-0 3.02 28 saves, BARD 2-5, 2.21, WHEELER 4.26, ACEVES 3.26,MILLER 5.40, JENKS 6.32, MORALES, 4.34, ATCHISON 4.70, DO YOU HAVE 3 GUYS HERE that are decent, rest our PIECES OF GARBAGE, so 5 potential solid pitchers on the entire staff, great for ws run, NOT!!!

T-CANE · Aug 16, 2011

PHil had a dead arm and possible nerve issues, rested and worked himself back, sick of people blasting this kid, he won 18 games and has 3 good pitches.Take him over those last 3 sux pitchers.NYY
CC 16-7 2.93, GARCIA 10-7 3.16, COLON 8-6 3.31, NOVA 11-4 3.85, HUGHES 3-4 6.55, AJ 9-9 4.61
PEN, MO 2.35 ERA 31 SAVES, ROBERTSON 3-0 1.32 ERA .179 BA. 47.2 IP, 72K'S!!!WOW, AYALA 1.40 ERA, WADE 2.31 ERA, LOGAN 2.97,NOESI 3.96, SORINAO 4.15, BUT AMAZING SINCE RETURN. PENS NOT EVEN CLOSE, YANKS DOMINATE, FACTS SPEAK VOLUMES.

FatHarry · Aug 16, 2011

T-Cane- I respect your passion and your facts, and your stats don't lie. However, as you know, all of that simply does not mean that secures results, more particularly in championship play. If Hughes' issues were merely a "dead arm", and nerve root involvement, just the nerve involvement alone could not have possibly been improved with treatment and a comeback, in that short of time. I have a friend who is a neurologist, and performs EMG's (nerve conduction studies to determine nerve damage) for a living. I should not name drop as its not my style, but in this case Rusty Staub, a longtime friend of mine who I know you must respect as a hitter and a class act, and who own's a first class retaurant in NYC called Rusty's, told me when Hughes "took time off", he was told by Ron Guidry, that Hughes had "head problems", and needed to get himself together mentally. They both agreed he is not a savior by any means, and his future as a Yankee pitcher is highly questionable. For the right price, he can be purchased. They would love to get rid of Hughes.

If all this we both have opinions on, meant so much, how do we explain the Giants winning the World Series last year? There are too many things that must fall in place for any team to win it all. I just think, the Yankees, are one of those too good to be true teams, that if you put them under a microscope, they are not a typical great Yankee team. If they were, they would have a 4 or 5 game lead. Posada, that crybaby. When is he going to realize he is no Yogi or Thurmon Munson. He is a great athlete, but he is no Berra of Munson. So stop crying Jorje. Your finished. And by some strange chance of fate, should they win the AL, do you really believe they can beat the Phillies. How long that Phillie package lasts, who knows. But the Phillies would be no less than -150 in a seven game series, vs the Yankees should a miracle occur and they face the Phillies in the World Series. I hope you really don't think the Yankee pitching staff can come close to the Phillies staff. Thanks for all the replys, and I can't wait for the end result of Yankee Baseball 2011.

Mlink · Aug 16, 2011

Sorry sir you are dead wrong here

i wont even get to comparing the teams....... sox have 3 great hitters, 2 good hitters and the rest scrubs or rookies or underachieving players (crawford) ...yankees lineup has 4-5 great hitters, proven all star catcher, stolen base leader in LF who is hitting .290, swish has been raking since june, cano is one of the best hitters in the game, soriano, robertson, Mo is one of the best trio of all time....soriano 42 saves last year and is just plain nasty, robertson has the lowest ERA of any AL pitcher and the best k/9 ratio and mo is the best closer in the sport.... yankees SP is actually much much better in terms of ERA then the sox, look at the numbers bud...also if yanks hold on to this win they are in sole possession of 1st place...so dont jump the gun by saying yanks will be playing in texas

T-CANE · Aug 16, 2011

Mlink said:
Sorry sir you are dead wrong here

i wont even get to comparing the teams....... sox have 3 great hitters, 2 good hitters and the rest scrubs or rookies or underachieving players (crawford) ...yankees lineup has 4-5 great hitters, proven all star catcher, stolen base leader in LF who is hitting .290, swish has been raking since june, cano is one of the best hitters in the game, soriano, robertson, Mo is one of the best trio of all time....soriano 42 saves last year and is just plain nasty, robertson has the lowest ERA of any AL pitcher and the best k/9 ratio and mo is the best closer in the sport.... yankees SP is actually much much better in terms of ERA then the sox, look at the numbers bud...also if yanks hold on to this win they are in sole possession of 1st place...so dont jump the gun by saying yanks will be playing in texas

I posted the pitching stats, THEY SUPPORT NY PITCHING VS SUX PITCHING. 3 of top 4 rbi men in AL on Yanks, AROD back this weekend, DJ on fire since return, SWISH HOT, POSADA is having good run since that horrible start.

FH- POSADA is a great catcher and leads NYY catchers in mnay all time stats. HE'S a close MVP guy with those offensive numbers for his posistion. YOU DISSING to many great players here. CANO AWESOME NIGHT AGAIN.

Mlink · Aug 16, 2011

yeah i stopped reading when he dissed cano, that is absolutely retarded... he disses cano but people praise ellsbury? ummm cano has the same numbers

T-CANE · Aug 16, 2011

CANO gets better every yr in hr's and rbi's and his DERBY WIN SHOWED HIS SWEET SWING, in his 20's and a long run still to go. I meant POSADA HOF as possibility not mvp. CORE 4 and POSADA, DJ, MO ONLY 3 TEAMMATES TO PLAY ENTIRE CAREER FOR 1 TEAM IN 17 YRS STRAIGHT=MORE NYY HISTORY AND LEGENDS.

FatHarry · Aug 16, 2011

T-Cane- They won tonight, no thanks to the stinking pitching staff you brag about ad nausium, namely NOVA tonight. Your Yankee pitching staff gave up 7 runs! Is that a championship performance from your boy NOVA et al. You were life and death to win it tonight, no thanks to NOVA. Lets keep it honest here. Your pitching staff leaves alot to be desired. God forbid Sabathia eats himserlf to death! NOVA+COLON+HUGHES doesnot equal any 3 pitchers the Red Sox, Texas or the Phillies Have! You need to get some rest.

FH

PatsFanatic · Aug 16, 2011

T-Cane if you were a sux fan and not a yankee fan would you be preaching a 10-2 H2H record or no?

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