rangers in game 5

taylor13 · Oct 24, 2011

Not gonna writeup a story here, but taking the best home pitcher record wise over the last two years vs a righty in a park that demands left handed pitching. My thinking is Rangers knock around Carpenter for a minimum of 4 runs through 6 inngs.

The series swings tonight, Texas needs one in St. Louis. I am a homer, but I really love this play. I'm on Texas for the series as well so hope its a big night for me

Texas -122

thess12345 · Oct 24, 2011

zomg LH pitching

DoubleBacon · Oct 24, 2011

I'm on Texas also. Here in Cincy there's no way I can root for the Cards. So it's a Texas bet or no bet for me. And beings i'm a degenerate gambler, I must bet. Therefore, it's a Texas bet. Yep, yep...makes perfect sense in my mind! :think2:

taylor13 · Oct 25, 2011

Winner. 3 down, 1 to go. Wonder if Jaime is getting nervous for his game 6 start, LOL

taylor13 · Oct 25, 2011

One right handed pitcher has won in Arlington in the postseason, and he got 16 runs in that game. Facts are facts, righties vs lefties are at a disadvantage in Arlington, even if you pitch well like carpenter did tonight

HookEmHorns · Oct 25, 2011

Nice call! :toast:

40AcresMafia · Oct 25, 2011

Taylor gang!

thess12345 · Oct 25, 2011

taylor13 said:
One right handed pitcher has won in Arlington in the postseason, and he got 16 runs in that game. Facts are facts, righties vs lefties are at a disadvantage in Arlington, even if you pitch well like carpenter did tonight

hahahaha so the cardinals throw 2 righties in game 4 and 5 that let up a combined 3 runs when they were in the game and you STILL stick to this fact that the lefites are at some ungodly advantage, what a fuckign joke

Maris9 · Oct 25, 2011

thess12345 said:
hahahaha so the cardinals throw 2 righties in game 4 and 5 that let up a combined 3 runs when they were in the game and you STILL stick to this fact that the lefites are at some ungodly advantage, what a fuckign joke

Also if you look at game 4 and the lefties that pitched, they got crushed.
Harrison, crushed.
Mike Gonzalez, crushed
Darren Oliver, a hit and a run.

Those guys are lefties, do they just get left out of the statistical analysis because they don't fit your end theory?

taylor13 · Oct 25, 2011

thess12345 said:
hahahaha so the cardinals throw 2 righties in game 4 and 5 that let up a combined 3 runs when they were in the game and you STILL stick to this fact that the lefites are at some ungodly advantage, what a fuckign joke

Unless you can prove me wrong (you can't) then yes I stick by this fact. Its common sense a left handed pitcher has an advantage in Arlington vs a righty. If you knew anything about the ballpark in Arlington, you would agree. But since you don't know anything about the ballpark in Arlington keep betting on righties against lefties and don't ask why you keep having to fund your 5 dimes account.....

Maris9 · Oct 25, 2011

taylor13 said:
Unless you can prove me wrong (you can't) then yes I stick by this fact. Its common sense a left handed pitcher has an advantage in Arlington vs a righty. If you knew anything about the ballpark in Arlington, you would agree. But since you don't know anything about the ballpark in Arlington keep betting on righties against lefties and don't ask why you keep having to fund your 5 dimes account.....

Yes but what happened game 3, in Arlington, lefty vs a righty?

The reason you're being questioned is because you cherry pick certain things and use them in your argument.
You leave out anything that doesn't fit.

taylor13 · Oct 25, 2011

Maris9 said:
Yes but what happened game 3, in Arlington, lefty vs a righty?

The reason you're being questioned is because you cherry pick certain things and use them in your argument.
You leave out anything that doesn't fit.

No, I have given props to Cards bats, I've even said they could take advantage of the jet stream. Guess you pick and choose what you read. I've also said this is baseball so anything can happen, I've said righties can win in Arlington but that doesn't mean a lhp doesn't have an advantage. Hell, I've seen Righty Scott Feldman win 17 games in Arlington a few years ago when he was still a flyball pitcher, he was still at a disadvantage when he took the mound vs a lefty. I'm not saying a left handed pitcher can't get rocked in Arlington like ours did in game 3, they can just like they can get rocked in anyother ballpark they pitch at.

Last time ill post this, if there is a team throwing a righty vs a lefty in Arlington, the lefty has an advantage because of the ballpark. Does that mean they will pitch great everytime, hell no but they still have an advantage. The rangers are finally smart enough since Nolan Ryan, John Daniels, and Ron Washington have taken over the team and in result have won back to back ALCS Championships. Nobody pitches well in Arlington be it righty or lefty, but a lefty has an advantage. So rangers throw 3 lefty groundball pitchers, and stack the left side of their infield with the best shortstop and 3rd baseman in the league. And they have a 2nd baseman that turns the double play as quick as anyone. Colby Lewis is a horrible fit for the ballpark in Arlington being right handed and flyball pitcher, but he is on our team for our division games we play on the road in big ballparks safeco, Oakland, and anaheim.

Maris9 · Oct 25, 2011

You're still not saying "why" LHPs have an advantage.
I have my own thoughts as to why you're saying it, but let's hear it, as opposed to just saying they have an advantage.

taylor13 · Oct 25, 2011

Maris9 said:
You're still not saying "why" LHPs have an advantage.
I have my own thoughts as to why you're saying it, but let's hear it, as opposed to just saying they have an advantage.

Really man? You can't figure it out? Because of the jet steam and short home run porch in right field.

Do I really need to break it down more than that for you? I mean, maybe i was giving you more credit than I should have. Basics for ya, a lefty will face mostly right handed hitters that pull the ball. Jet stream is in right field. A high fastball by a righty is the pitch every single ranger player wants to hit to right center field, and they are all good at hitting the high fastball to right. That's why the rangers throw lefties and dominate righties at home. Not sure why you are trying to prove me wrong or whatever, but you aren't gonna prove me wrong about this. Really, its kind of a waste of time for me, I'd rather hear whatever dumb theory you have? I could use a good laugh and its nice to be reassured not everybody has caught onto this ranger thing so I can still get good prices when verlander, shields, carpenter, weaver, haren etc... come to town

thess12345 · Oct 25, 2011

Maris9 said:
Those guys are lefties, do they just get left out of the statistical analysis because they don't fit your end theory?

that's exactly what he's doing.

taylor13 said:
Unless you can prove me wrong (you can't) then yes I stick by this fact. Its common sense a left handed pitcher has an advantage in Arlington vs a righty. If you knew anything about the ballpark in Arlington, you would agree. But since you don't know anything about the ballpark in Arlington keep betting on righties against lefties and don't ask why you keep having to fund your 5 dimes account.....

I don't have to prove you wrong when you yourself can't prove your theory, or atleast you haven't yet in this thread.

taylor13 · Oct 25, 2011

thess12345 said:
I don't have to prove you wrong when you yourself can't prove your theory, or atleast you haven't yet in this thread.

Damn thess, you stalking me? I'm sorry your cards are about to lose the world series, and I challenge you next year to prove what I know works at the ballpark in Arlington wrong. Thanks and don't ask why you have to keep funding your 5 dimes acct when you bet on righties in Arlington

thess12345 · Oct 25, 2011

how many fucking times can you use the same fund my 5 dimes acocunt line? I mean seriously.

you can "know" sometihng but it doesn't mean it's right. You act like the righties the cardinals started got pounded. What a dunce.

Maris9 · Oct 25, 2011

taylor13 said:
Really man? You can't figure it out? Because of the jet steam and short home run porch in right field.

Do I really need to break it down more than that for you? I mean, maybe i was giving you more credit than I should have. Basics for ya, a lefty will face mostly right handed hitters that pull the ball. Jet stream is in right field. A high fastball by a righty is the pitch every single ranger player wants to hit to right center field, and they are all good at hitting the high fastball to right. That's why the rangers throw lefties and dominate righties at home. Not sure why you are trying to prove me wrong or whatever, but you aren't gonna prove me wrong about this. Really, its kind of a waste of time for me, I'd rather hear whatever dumb theory you have? I could use a good laugh and its nice to be reassured not everybody has caught onto this ranger thing so I can still get good prices when verlander, shields, carpenter, weaver, haren etc... come to town

Reading comprehension really must not be your thing.
I said right there in my post that I had my own theory on why you thought that, I just wanted to hear it from you. You're not "breaking off crazy knowledge" here, so get over yourself.
I'm also really not trying "prove you wrong," but let's be honest, you haven't "proven" anything here yet. You've supplied no proof to your "theories." Let's see some numbers that reference LHP's having way way more success than RHP's. Because so far all I've heard are opinions on jet streams and how right field is a shorter poke.
Let's see some actual numbers here, if you've got it all figured out.

If anything, the park just favors left handed hitters, so it's more lineup dependent than anything. Yes I understand teams are going to stack left handed hitters against RHP's and visa versa (if they have the personnel to do so), but it's still a lineup dependent thing rather than whether it's a lefty or a righty pitching.

So again, let's see the proof (aka numbers, not you sticking your finger in the air and saying there's a jet stream). Let's see the actual facts here. Because all you've done thus far is run your mouth and show that you have a below average understanding of the actual game of baseball.
The stuff you say kinda reminds me of when a girl hears something about sports on talk radio, and then just repeats it verbatim trying to make boys think she's into sports.

taylor13 · Oct 25, 2011

thess12345 said:
how many fucking times can you use the same fund my 5 dimes acocunt line? I mean seriously.

you can "know" sometihng but it doesn't mean it's right. You act like the righties the cardinals started got pounded. What a dunce.

Haha....good lord man. How old are you like 8, 9 years old

FWIW, they didn't get pounded. I never said they got pounded, I said they were at a disadvantage, and they were. They pitched pretty good actually, but not good enough and your skipper blew his wad too......one more to go, see ya tomorrow jaime

thess12345 · Oct 25, 2011

they didn't pitch good enough, are you for real? The fact that the best offense in the national league has shitted up the joint has a whole helluva lot more to do with it.

And don't say it was the Rangers pitchers, because they've already beaten Halladay Lee Oswalt Greinke and Gallardo in these playoffs, all better pitchers than anything the Rangers have. And they've put up runs against them, too.