Rangers +105 Game 6

taylor13 · Oct 27, 2011

So I can have the rangers at plus money even though they have the better pitcher going, better overall lineup, better bullpen, better defense, better baserunning and have a chance to close out their first world series?

Jaime is better than i thought, but the story on him is he is a head case and now his teams season depends on his young, inexperienced arm. Cards bullpen has fooled nobody since game 1 so they really need Jaime to pitch a great game. Colby has pitched in big games before and usually thrives in them, plus he is pitching in a ballpark that suits his style, not arlington. If you take out game 3, the cards bats are hitting at an unimpressive clip of .183 in the series, hopefully they dont wake up tonight.

Time to make Rangers history tonight. GL

thess12345 · Oct 27, 2011

the better pitcher going? the better offense?

hahahahhahahahahahahahahha

thess12345 · Oct 27, 2011

And I'll provide stats(unlike you)

Cardinals OPS+ 113
Rangers OPS+ 108

Garcia at home:
9-4 2.55 ERA 71 OPS+

Lewis away:
9-5 3.43 ERA 85 OPS+

Garcia on 6 days rest:
3-1 1.61 ERA 7IP per start

Lewis on 6 days rest
4-2 5.00 ERA

try again homer. quit posting things that are statistically false, but that you "know" are true.

UT_Longhorn · Oct 27, 2011

Thats also all relative though. In post season Colby Lewis has a better ERA. In World Series Rangers have a better BA. Not saying that either side is right, just that this has been a hard series to cap and this game has so much more at stake than any other this season, that no one can predict the moves that will be made. I like the Rangers tonight but thats a lean that I was more confident in before the extra day off. If the Rangers get ahead, Garcia's numbers could go out the window and micromanager deluxe could come out.

Maris9 · Oct 27, 2011

thess12345 said:
try again homer. quit posting things that are statistically false, but that you "know" are true.

^That.

Anyone can win this game, but you're constantly posting opinions and pretending like they are facts. Enough with that already, it's getting old.

taylor13 · Oct 27, 2011

Thanks for the interest in my thread Maris and Caps. You two should start a thread/get a room and share your thoughts together while i keep winning money on this series. I've lost money on Game one and made money on every game besides that one so i'll keep doing whats working. GL

Maris9 · Oct 27, 2011

taylor13 said:
so i'll keep doing whats working. GL

Making things up and hoping you win?

Look dude, one team is going to win, and that's great that Texas is your team. Really, it is.
But you're making shit up and calling it fact, and that's lame. Just say, I love me some Rangers, I want them to win real bad, and I'm gonna bet on them.

taylor13 · Oct 27, 2011

Maris9 said:
Just say, I love me some Rangers, I want them to win real bad, and I'm gonna bet on them.

Ok, ill agree with that part of what you said.

And then ill add when colby gets beat, its because he is giving up homeruns. There are not going to be many, if any, homeruns hit tonight in this weather. Possibly coldest 1st pitch in 30+ years tonight, ball ain't jumping. Colby is not the kind of pitcher that usually gets beat by basehits, its longballs that kill colby, 30+ hr's given up this year, and I dnt think that will be an issue tonight because of the weather and of course the big ballpark. Another reason I like it is because I think the young jaime chokes under this much pressure. Another reason is because I thinks its harder to play baseball under pressure than it is with house money, so to speak. Another reason, I feel rangers can score runs in a lot more ways than the cards can because of their speed. Another reason, the cards bullpen has given up runs in every game since game 1. I couod go on but I'm tired of typing.

If you think I'm guessing cause I'm a fan, that's cool. I'm a good guesser I guess. GL

thess12345 · Oct 27, 2011

taylor13 said:
Ok, ill agree with that part of what you said.

And then ill add when colby gets beat, its because he is giving up homeruns. There are not going to be many, if any, homeruns hit tonight in this weather. Possibly coldest 1st pitch in 30+ years tonight, ball ain't jumping. Colby is not the kind of pitcher that usually gets beat by basehits, its longballs that kill colby, 30+ hr's given up this year, and I dnt think that will be an issue tonight because of the weather and of course the big ballpark. Another reason I like it is because I think the young jaime chokes under this much pressure. Another reason is because I thinks its harder to play baseball under pressure than it is with house money, so to speak. Another reason, I feel rangers can score runs in a lot more ways than the cards can because of their speed. Another reason, the cards bullpen has given up runs in every game since game 1. I couod go on but I'm tired of typing.

If you think I'm guessing cause I'm a fan, that's cool. I'm a good guesser I guess. GL

The bold was actually a well thought out reason (possibly the first I've read from you)

Everything after that is pretty meh
Jaime chokes on the road. Jaime chokes vs the Brewers. He's pretty damn good otherwise, including game 3 vs the Phillies and Game 2 vs this same team.

How are the rangers playing with house money and the cardinals under pressure? No sense.

Molina eliminates speed the majority of the time.

The Rangers bullpen let up 11 runs in game 3. The Cardinals bullpen has let up 11 runs the entire series in more IP.

taylor13 · Oct 27, 2011

thess12345 said:
The bold was actually a well thought out reason (possibly the first I've read from you)

Everything after that is pretty meh
Jaime chokes on the road. Jaime chokes vs the Brewers. He's pretty damn good otherwise, including game 3 vs the Phillies and Game 2 vs this same team.

How are the rangers playing with house money and the cardinals under pressure? No sense.

Molina eliminates speed the majority of the time.

The Rangers bullpen let up 11 runs in game 3. The Cardinals bullpen has let up 11 runs the entire series in more IP.

DUDE, BET ON THE CARDS THEN!
I didn't know molina was gonna gun down somebody from right field that's trying to score from first, or a guy going from first to 3rd. Cards scored 11 runs off our bullpen in one game that was out of hand, no reason for wash to waste his better bullpen guys in the first game of 3 in a row when the game started getting out of hand. And yea, the rangers are playing with house money, they don't have to win tonight to see a game 7, the cards do.
IMO, if colby Lewis was a cardinal, he would be the best home pitcher on that team, the ballpark just fits his pitching style. Plus, what pitcher wouldn't be a better pitcher at home than on the road if your a cardinal? It's a pitchers park.

I will say, if jaime isn't shellshocked by the pressure tonight, he could pitch another good game. He is the type of pitcher that rangers have trouble with, with nasty changeup. But I'm betting on him choking, and if he doesn't choke I'm betting on the better bullpen and lineup

butenutts · Oct 27, 2011

thess12345 said:
The bold was actually a well thought out reason (possibly the first I've read from you)

Everything after that is pretty meh
Jaime chokes on the road. Jaime chokes vs the Brewers. He's pretty damn good otherwise, including game 3 vs the Phillies and Game 2 vs this same team.

How are the rangers playing with house money and the cardinals under pressure? No sense.

Molina eliminates speed the majority of the time.

The Rangers bullpen let up 11 runs in game 3. The Cardinals bullpen has let up 11 runs the entire series in more IP.

A- The cold does matter (38*), but it is also tough to pitch in the cold, which can lead to walks and hanging curves (cold fingers). Also, watched something on sports science the other day and they were saying that a cold night can kill a 400 ft ball by like 10 feet. Seems like quite a bit, but not when freese and pujols are the only players likely to hit a homerun (on st louis), and they hit bombs when they get a hold of one. Texas can really hit it out, and the dimensions of busch st. are not that crazy big. 335 down the line is kinda big i guess...but not crazy

The texas lineup is dominant but I don't like seeing hamilton hit #3 with a bad groin. He doesnt look like anything to be scared of.

Speed is not a deciding factor in this game, lefty on the mound and like you said, molina has a cannon and i dont think they will be running on him much more.

ill be picking Rangers because hitting is streaky, and they are hot. They left like 800 people on base last game and still won by two.

Can't assume Garcia is going to choke, but if he leaves the ball up its going to get smacked around. RANGERS

Oh, and by house money I think he means being up 3-2, even if they lose, there is still a game 7. Some people react to pressure and pitch well (carpenter, pettite, clemens, schilling) and some choke. Fight or Flight I believe is the saying?

How does anyone feel about the over under 7? Seems low for these two pitchers and the offenses...? I get the cold and big park but idk... anyone have any figures on total runs scored per game in Busch Stadium?

Maris9 · Oct 27, 2011

taylor13 said:
Ok, ill agree with that part of what you said.

And then ill add when colby gets beat, its because he is giving up homeruns. There are not going to be many, if any, homeruns hit tonight in this weather. Possibly coldest 1st pitch in 30+ years tonight, ball ain't jumping. Colby is not the kind of pitcher that usually gets beat by basehits, its longballs that kill colby, 30+ hr's given up this year, and I dnt think that will be an issue tonight because of the weather and of course the big ballpark. Another reason I like it is because I think the young jaime chokes under this much pressure. Another reason is because I thinks its harder to play baseball under pressure than it is with house money, so to speak. Another reason, I feel rangers can score runs in a lot more ways than the cards can because of their speed. Another reason, the cards bullpen has given up runs in every game since game 1. I couod go on but I'm tired of typing.

If you think I'm guessing cause I'm a fan, that's cool. I'm a good guesser I guess. GL

Ya, a lot of that was a good read.
Better than just saying Texas has the better this and better that without any kind of proof/stats to back it up.

Good luck tonight. Should be a good game.

taylor13 · Oct 27, 2011

Maris9 said:
Should be a good game.

I hope not, id rather see 7-3 in favor of my team. GL either way

Maris9 · Oct 27, 2011

butenutts said:
How does anyone feel about the over under 7? Seems low for these two pitchers and the offenses...? I get the cold and big park but idk... anyone have any figures on total runs scored per game in Busch Stadium?

They set it at 7.5 after game 5. I took it then but of course it got no actioned.
Line was eventually bet down to 7 with juice on the Over, and that's where they also reopened it at.
With a ton of money coming in on the Over it has stayed at 7 juice on the Over, so I guess I still like the Under. But liked it way better when I had the 7.5

Ballin Shiv · Oct 27, 2011

Colby "the Cobra" Lewis and his 2.55 postseason ERA are going into St. Louis tonight and winning the Rangers their first WORLD SERIES!

7-2 for dem boys from TEXAS!

butenutts · Oct 27, 2011

I have trouble betting overs in WS games, especially elimination games ...because of all of the pitching changes... they bring in the best, even if overworked, and even starters at times. Tough at 7, i bet it at 7.5 before the rain out because I was betting on some rain. No one likes to hit in the rain, atleast I know I didnt.

mokoman · Oct 27, 2011

This might be a 1 run game tonight,think it might go 7 games.This is not a hitters stadium compared to texas so be careful on over.

butenutts · Oct 27, 2011

rangers -105, over 7 total, rangers first 5 innings, miami -13.5 lets hope i go 4 for 4 tonight boys!

gynecologist · Oct 27, 2011

GL taylor made!!!

Huckel · Oct 27, 2011

couldn't ask for a better start easy $

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