Reason Cards win game 7-------------Reasons Rangers win Game 7

taylor13 · Oct 28, 2011

CARDS
1. Momentum
2. Their best pitcher
3. National League ballpark

Rangers
1. Good bounce back team
2. I'm sure most of yall dont think so, but Harrisson is a good pitcher, he is kind of Washingtons teachers pet so to speak, has been all year.
3. Regardless what happened to our bullpen last night, i think rangers have the better bullpen. Just my opinion
4. even though Carp is pitching for cards, you throw a pitcher 3 times in 7 games the bats gotta figure him out at some point you would think. Look at Felix, Weaver, Haren other guys we face alot, they suck against rangers

i cant imagine a team ever having as much dissapointment as the rangers did last night, twice being one strike away from being world series champs. Just my opinion, if the rangers are to win tonight, they have to have Harrisson pitch well, have CJ, Holland, and Feldman pitch well out of the bullpen, and then they will hopefully turn the game over to Mike Adams and not Feliz. I think the rangers bullpen is in better shape than the Cards, but you Cards folks will have to fill me in there. I dont see how Washington can go to Ogando or Feliz tonight, local ranger reporters said he was absolutely devestated last night, that said trusting his guys and showing faith is what Washington does and he has made it to two world series doing it. Did the Cards you their 9th life last night, or do they still have one more to go, they have played with fire for a long time and havent got burned yet. Its hard to count that bunch out.

Like to hear some info from some Cards folks?

BTW, that was the greatest baseball game ever played before imo, if the rangers would have won last night id have gone to bed up $1349, with my series bet and rangers on game 6. But they didnt, so now i'm trying to decide if i let my rangers bet ride and if they win i'll be up somewhere around $700, if they lose i'll be down $100 or so. Either way, i'm gonna ride with the rangers tonight but i'm not betting on the game

And i think anybody that blames that loss on Washington is a complete idiot. He had a two run lead in the bottom of the 9th and turned the game over to his closer. Had a two run lead in the bottom of the 10th and still had a one run lead with 2 outs, 2 strikes in the bottom of the 10th. It wasnt Washington's fault and as a matter of fact, i think washington did a pretty good job since his bullpen isnt in too bad of shape. About the only thing i wish Washington would have done was let Colby pitch longer, but all season long Colby has gotten lit up when he gets to 100 pitches and he was at 95 when he got pulled so even hard t argue with that desicion

thess12345 · Oct 28, 2011

info on Cards bullpen:
I wouldn't expect to see Lynn or Salas. I'm thinking Carpenter goes as long as possible and then Jackson comes in (just a hunch). That's why Garcia came out so quickly yesterday-TLR knew he had 3 starters available today, and as bad as lohse has been recently he's good for 1 time through the order. honestly, I think this is Carpenter, Jackson, and Motte's game until the end.

Also, I can't see how Holland is available, and, if he is, I expect him to get hit hard. Who knows though.

The key (obviously) will be the starting pitching. How does Harrison boucce back? How does Carpenter attack the hitters/what's his strategy?

Either the cardinals win, or my pre series prediction of Rangers in 7 is right (yes, I did pick the Rangers in 7, but that was before the rain out

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Chong · Oct 28, 2011

I think your #1 post is the one of the best (if not the best) reason why we take it tonight. Yes, we have our bulldog pitcher going tonight, but it is on short rest. However, there isn't another pitcher (outside of Waino which is a moot point) I'd rather have taking the bump at home in a winner take all game. He's on short rest. But Carp has been dominiate at home. Back to my original point momentum is a huge player here. I don't care what Washington or the other players are sayin to themselves to "turn the page" so to speak. They're still human and have emotions. That's demoralizing what the Cards were able to do...twice...when down to their last strike.

The one point I would argue with you on is that I think did make mistake taking Feliz out. He is a true, legitimate, lights out closer. Why he took him out at that point of the game does fall on Wash's shoulders and should never have been done. I'd much rather face Feldman versus Feliz. Hands down he's no where near as nasty.

That being said hopefully we're in for a treat tonight. I don't think anything can match up to last nights game. So unless the Birds get the win anything else is going to be a let down.

GO CARDS!!!!

barnzy32 · Oct 28, 2011

Its hard to cap who will win these games especially game 7. I just dont know how anyone can bet against the cards with all the momentum from last nights win. Let down spot maybe? NEVER. we never give up and this team plays with heart. With that being said, i wont be betting the game. These teams are evenly matched and should shape up to be another great game tonight. BOL Taylor

taylor13 · Oct 28, 2011

thess12345 said:
info on Cards bullpen:
I wouldn't expect to see Lynn or Salas. I'm thinking Carpenter goes as long as possible and then Jackson comes in (just a hunch). That's why Garcia came out so quickly yesterday-TLR knew he had 3 starters available today, and as bad as lohse has been recently he's good for 1 time through the order. honestly, I think this is Carpenter, Jackson, and Motte's game until the end.

Also, I can't see how Holland is available, and, if he is, I expect him to get hit hard. Who knows though.

The key (obviously) will be the starting pitching. How does Harrison boucce back? How does Carpenter attack the hitters/what's his strategy?

Either the cardinals win, or my pre series prediction of Rangers in 7 is right (yes, I did pick the Rangers in 7, but that was before the rain out )

Holland is good for an inning, or to come in and make berkman bat from the right side which is more likely. Yea, he wont pitch 2-3 inngs again, but he is available from what i'm hearing. I think the Rangers best hope is that they can hit Carpenter after seeing him so much in a week, and i think the cards best hope is that the Rangers cant hit carp. After i settled down from last night, i dont think the chips are stacked quite as heavily against the rangers as i thought last night. But i do think the cards are the favorite now.....
Will Berkman bat cleanup from the right side of the plate? or will TLR mover Freese or Craig into cleanup spot. I dont see how TLR can have berkman in the cleanup spot from the right side of the plate, but IDK

taylor13 · Oct 28, 2011

barnzy32 said:
Its hard to cap who will win these games especially game 7. I just dont know how anyone can bet against the cards with all the momentum from last nights win. Let down spot maybe? NEVER. we never give up and this team plays with heart. With that being said, i wont be betting the game. These teams are evenly matched and should shape up to be another great game tonight. BOL Taylor

thanks man, i think the exact same thing you said can be said for both teams. i was pretty impressed when the rangers immidiately put two morre runs on the board after blowing the save last night. and then extremely dissapointed when they blew those 2 runs. i knew it was over when Lowe was coming in though

thess12345 · Oct 28, 2011

no idea what he's thinking, but I think one thing is he might not make the lineup with the first or 2nd time through the order, but rather the third fourth and 5th. You have to figure that Harrison's on a really short lease, and if you stick Berkman between Pujols and Freese, it makes it tough to bring in a lefty vs him, giving him a better shot to do what he did last night.

What's the news on Cruz/Napoli?

taylor13 · Oct 28, 2011

still no word on Cruz, but its a groin. Napoli is playing, guy would play if he had one leg. Rangers will be throwing all lefties tonight, besides Adams, Feldman, and hopefully Ogando doesnt come in but he is a righty. if cruz cant play in field, i'd imagine he will be available to pinch hit so that would give washington an option off the bench for a change

TDoubleT · Oct 28, 2011

Im a true Ranger Homer and have a series bet on the rangers but in games like this pitching always seems to show its face.

The only thing Texas has going for them is that the last time Carp pitched they figured him out in the mid innings. If you go back in watch, they started sitting on the curve ball and was letting the fastballs go. It still doesnt mean they can put it into play. I think both teams will have a reality check about 3 innings in and will start squeezing the stick.

Texas is not very good when it comes to making a play or making a pitch. I have watched them all year and last night game goes to show you they looked scared when it was time to win. However, this team also seems to step up when everybody else is counting them out after bad losses and they have been doing that all year too.

Numbers never mean much in the playoffs and seem to go the other direction from what they did during the season. One that hasn't gone the other way yet is Texas losing back to back games since August. This is one I will hate to see broken.......

I will take UNDER 8 -115

Drunkn247 · Oct 28, 2011

taylor13 said:
still no word on Cruz, but its a groin. Napoli is playing, guy would play if he had one leg. Rangers will be throwing all lefties tonight, besides Adams, Feldman, and hopefully Ogando doesnt come in but he is a righty. if cruz cant play in field, i'd imagine he will be available to pinch hit so that would give washington an option off the bench for a change

Cruz should have just laid out for that ball and broke a bone if he had too. He is a gamer but if you watch that replay he pulled up bc of fear of the wall and he got hurt now anyway.

TDoubleT · Oct 28, 2011

Fyi, Cruz says he is playing

Drunkn247 · Oct 28, 2011

taylor13 said:
CARDS
1. Momentum
2. Their best pitcher
3. National League ballpark

Rangers
1. Good bounce back team
2. I'm sure most of yall dont think so, but Harrisson is a good pitcher, he is kind of Washingtons teachers pet so to speak, has been all year.
3. Regardless what happened to our bullpen last night, i think rangers have the better bullpen. Just my opinion
4. even though Carp is pitching for cards, you throw a pitcher 3 times in 7 games the bats gotta figure him out at some point you would think. Look at Felix, Weaver, Haren other guys we face alot, they suck against rangers

i cant imagine a team ever having as much dissapointment as the rangers did last night, twice being one strike away from being world series champs. Just my opinion, if the rangers are to win tonight, they have to have Harrisson pitch well, have CJ, Holland, and Feldman pitch well out of the bullpen, and then they will hopefully turn the game over to Mike Adams and not Feliz. I think the rangers bullpen is in better shape than the Cards, but you Cards folks will have to fill me in there. I dont see how Washington can go to Ogando or Feliz tonight, local ranger reporters said he was absolutely devestated last night, that said trusting his guys and showing faith is what Washington does and he has made it to two world series doing it. Did the Cards you their 9th life last night, or do they still have one more to go, they have played with fire for a long time and havent got burned yet. Its hard to count that bunch out.

Like to hear some info from some Cards folks?

BTW, that was the greatest baseball game ever played before imo, if the rangers would have won last night id have gone to bed up $1349, with my series bet and rangers on game 6. But they didnt, so now i'm trying to decide if i let my rangers bet ride and if they win i'll be up somewhere around $700, if they lose i'll be down $100 or so. Either way, i'm gonna ride with the rangers tonight but i'm not betting on the game

And i think anybody that blames that loss on Washington is a complete idiot. He had a two run lead in the bottom of the 9th and turned the game over to his closer. Had a two run lead in the bottom of the 10th and still had a one run lead with 2 outs, 2 strikes in the bottom of the 10th. It wasnt Washington's fault and as a matter of fact, i think washington did a pretty good job since his bullpen isnt in too bad of shape. About the only thing i wish Washington would have done was let Colby pitch longer, but all season long Colby has gotten lit up when he gets to 100 pitches and he was at 95 when he got pulled so even hard t argue with that desicion

I think Wash really screwed up by not bringing Feliz to pitch in the 10th. He is still much better than Oliver even if he threw alot of pitches. Also ph for Feldman with that god awful German guy- Feldman doesn't serve up the HR to Freese in the 11th. You said it yourself you knew that they were done when Lowe was coming in so why didn't Wash or Maddux. That guys is horrible too. Should have at least through CJ in.

thess12345 · Oct 28, 2011

I thought for sure when I saw him slow down the game was over and he was camping under it

taylor13 · Oct 28, 2011

yea, so anyways back to tonights game. I'm hopeful tonight, the rangers can hit a pitcher they have seen around 200 pitches from in the last week. I'm pretty sure Jerry Layne will call the low strike tonight unlike Cedarstrom last night, so that should help both these groundball pitchers. Remember now, Harrison pitched pretty well in game 3 until the botched double play call at first base, he was cruising till that point, and then yes like the rest of our pitchers besides Colby when they get a bad break they unravel.

The homer in me says I like the rangers chances to get to Carp tonight, and I like having Harrisson, and hopefully CJ can man up and be a pitcher out of the pen like he did till two years ago. if those two guys are on, i really like our chances. if they arent on, i really hope we get to Carp......either way, i took my medicine last night financially already and i'm just watching this one. I got my Moreland jersey on today, 5-0 when i wear that one, lol.

Mobdeeper7239 · Oct 28, 2011

feeeel like EVERYYYONE is jumping on Cardinals band wagon..when before last night, Texas were the best team...now it is the other way around? if Cruz plays, and the lineup is the same....there is no way I don't take the Rangers.. they make history tonight...last 7 times a team has won game 6 at home after trailing 3-2, they've won game 7, 7 out of 8 times. my only worry, but I'll go against the public and the history and take the better team.. Rangers haven't lost back to back games for a minute right?

barnzy32 · Oct 28, 2011

Mobdeeper7239 said:
feeeel like EVERYYYONE is jumping on Cardinals band wagon..when before last night, Texas were the best team...now it is the other way around? if Cruz plays, and the lineup is the same....there is no way I don't take the Rangers.. they make history tonight...last 7 times a team has won game 6 at home after trailing 3-2, they've won game 7, 7 out of 8 times. my only worry, but I'll go against the public and the history and take the better team.. Rangers haven't lost back to back games for a minute right?

lol good luck mob. See u were on them last night too. They are not the better team. These 2 teams are about as evenly matched as they come. Its been a great series. Good luck betting against the team with all the momentum after a historic win last night.

taylor13 · Oct 28, 2011

Mobdeeper7239 said:
feeeel like EVERYYYONE is jumping on Cardinals band wagon..when before last night, Texas were the best team...now it is the other way around? if Cruz plays, and the lineup is the same....there is no way I don't take the Rangers.. they make history tonight...last 7 times a team has won game 6 at home after trailing 3-2, they've won game 7, 7 out of 8 times. my only worry, but I'll go against the public and the history and take the better team.. Rangers haven't lost back to back games for a minute right?

i like it mob. hope your right, good to see an unbiased opinion on rangers, your the only unbiased opinion i've seen i think. yea, they havent lost back to back since aug 25th or somewhere around there. i sure hope they have a 6 run lead into the 8th 9th instead of 2 though

Mobdeeper7239 · Oct 28, 2011

last time a road team won a game 7 was the 1979 pirates! wow.

Mobdeeper7239 · Oct 28, 2011

cardinals should not even be in this game...and usually when that is the case...that team brings the $$$$ in. I'm undecided as of now...just like last night lol. I took an In game for the Rangers in the bottom of the 3rd inning when it was 2-2 at +110. when it got to 9-9 and Feldman was pulled basically because Cruz got hurt, live in game was -175 for the Cards, they knew game was already over after that. so I bet on both teams last night. lol...but will most likely be on this game last second... honestly I like the UNDER 8 the most. there hasn't been a game 7 that has gone over since 1986, mets/redsox. so that's 1 over in game 7 to 6 unders in game 7. elimination games= defense

recon220 · Oct 28, 2011

anytime you you use the reason: this team should not even be here.... lol you should pass on betting on this game. It seems to have gotten emotional for you unless it's a small play. haha

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