NBA Makes Labor Proposal With Ultimatum to players Union.

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The National Basketball Association met with its players for about nine hours under the direction of a federal mediator, offering a new labor proposal that if not accepted by Nov. 9 would be rescinded and replaced with an offer much less favorable.

The proposal made to the National Basketball Players Association was unacceptable and an attempt to “strong-arm” the players, union attorney Jeffrey Kessler said following the talks, which began at around 5 p.m. New York time yesterday at a midtown Manhattan hotel.

Under the new proposal, players would earn between 49 percent and 51 percent of basketball-related income depending upon league growth, NBA Commissioner David Stern said at a news conference. The proposal would drop to 47 percent after the deadline if players chose not to accept it.

Stern also said the league adopted five suggestions made by George Cohen, director of the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service, related to the system the league operates under. If not accepted, the league would revert to offering players a “flex cap” that limits the high and low ends of the salary cap -- the ceiling on player payrolls.

“We want to allow enough time for the union to consider our most recent proposal and we are hopeful that they accept it,” Stern said. “But it doesn’t aid the negotiation process to just leave it hanging out there, so we’ve indicated where we’ll be going if we can’t make a deal.”
‘Sad Day’

Union President Derek Fisher, speaking at a separate news conference that followed, called it a “very frustrating, sad day.” He said the players offered to lower their take to 51 percent, with one percent from that portion dedicated to benefiting retired players.

“We will, as a group, assess the situation,” Fisher said. “But right now we’ve been given the ultimatum and our answer is that’s not acceptable.”

Union Executive Director Billy Hunter left the hotel prior to the news conference because he was “under the weather,” spokesman Dan Wasserman said.

The most recent previous talks left the two sides 2 1/2 percentage points apart, with the league offering a 50/50 split of basketball-related income and the players seeking 52.5 percent. The players made 57 percent under the last labor deal and Stern has said that the league’s 30 owners lost a collective $300 million last season. The NBA had about $4.3 billion in revenue last season.
‘47 Percent Highway’

The union used the “wildest, most unimaginable favorable projections” to determine that even under the best of circumstances, the league’s proposal would only bring the players’ cut to 50.2 percent, Kessler said.

“They knew today they were going to stick to 50, essentially 50.2 (percent), they were going to make almost no movement in the system and then they were going to say, ‘My way or the 47 percent highway,’” Kessler said. “These are professional basketball players, the finest athletes in the world. How do you think they feel about threats? How do you think they feel about efforts at intimidation?”

Yesterday was the 128th day since the NBA locked players out after the previous collective bargaining agreement expired July 1.

Stern announced on Oct. 28, the last time talks collapsed, that a full 82-game season would not be possible. The league already has wiped out the entire November schedule for a season that was set to begin Nov. 1.

In recent days, each side showed signs of disharmony. After taking criticism on Twitter that league owners were greedy, Miami Heat owner Micky Arison responded that the person was “barking at the wrong owner.” He was fined $500,000 by Stern for violating a league-mandated gag order.

About 50 players, unhappy with the progress and direction of the talks, held a conference call with an antitrust attorney on Nov. 3 to discuss the merits of decertifying the union, the New York Times and other media outlets reported.

Three straight days of mediated talks under Cohen that ended Oct. 20 failed to produce a deal, with Cohen saying in a statement that “no useful purpose would be served by requesting the parties to continue the mediation process at this time.”

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Lets hope they don't take the deal and this thing lockout continues
 
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Lets hope they don't take the deal and this thing lockout continues

I haven't really been following this whole mess. What is so wrong with owners and players splitting the pot 50/50? They are already getting paid millions to shoot hoops and drink gatorade. What more do they want?
 

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Not sure if this math is correct but saw someone post this on an NBA article

"So the first two weeks of the NBA is officially canceled...the players just lost 180 million, which their crying over a 100million at a 50/50 split, and if the season is lost the player's loss is 2 billion....hmmm!! lets do the math even if the owners agree to what the player's want after a whole year lockout it will take 20 years playing in the NBA just to break even for what they lost this year...so, I'm just wondering who took their math 101 lesson in school...."
 
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With football going strong, and college hoops on the horizon - I don't think too many fans are pining away for the NBA. I wonder how many teams may be scrapped if the season is cancelled?
 
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With football going strong, and college hoops on the horizon - I don't think too many fans are pining away for the NBA. I wonder how many teams may be scrapped if the season is cancelled?

Scrap the whole dang thing forever if you ask me. The product just isn't that good.

You want great basketball where folks are giving their all, every game? Watch college hoops. From the fans in the stands to the kids on the court, that product is definitely where it's at.

Thug ball......mmmm....not so much!
 

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The players will cave in, these guys with 12-15 bastard kids apiece need that money very badly.
 

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The players will cave in, these guys with 12-15 bastard kids apiece need that money very badly.

More racism, generalized statements, and ignorance from the lifeless one with 30K+ posts. How any forum could stand a hateful, brain-dead inchworm like you for the amount of time they have is beyond me. Perhaps it is just pity, as your real life human relations are obviously non-existant.
 

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Scrap the whole dang thing forever if you ask me. The product just isn't that good.

You want great basketball where folks are giving their all, every game? Watch college hoops. From the fans in the stands to the kids on the court, that product is definitely where it's at.

Thug ball......mmmm....not so much!

Too much money to scrap. no matter how bad anything is. If there is money in it, it will happen. Look at WWF
 

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More racism, generalized statements, and ignorance from the lifeless one with 30K+ posts. How any forum could stand a hateful, brain-dead inchworm like you for the amount of time they have is beyond me. Perhaps it is just pity, as your real life human relations are obviously non-existant.

I said nothing about race, Johnny
 

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