Question about fantasy football vetoes

shdw01 · Nov 10, 2011

I have recently had a trade vetoed for the first time. I am just curious to the purpose of a veto. I thought it was simply to prevent collusion/cheating. It is a new league that I'm in this year and I do not even know this person that I had a pending trade with.

FWIW, it is a RB point-favored league (PPR and PPC league...point per carry)

I have 3 WRs (Megatron, Roddy White and Miles Austin). I traded away Miles Austin to a guy that has a lot of RBs and he accepted Lynch. (FWIW, i'm 1st place in this league currently)

1) Are Vetoes to prevent unfair trades? Or is it only to stop cheaters?
2) Was this an unfair trade?
3) Should I say anything to the league?

BettingFoodStamps · Nov 10, 2011

It must of been the commisioner of that league, ask him. Not enough heads in those leagues that hang around to get it veto'd

ECS · Nov 10, 2011

I would guess its because some are saying Austin may be out the rest of the FF year

HacheMan · Nov 10, 2011

Who did you say you received from Miles Austin?
Marshawn Lynch?

Also, what is the status of the commissioner's team?
Is he in a running at the top with you?

1) Are Vetoes to prevent unfair trades? Or is it only to stop cheaters?
It is for both, but mostly the latter, which basically falls into the same category as "unfair".
2) Was this an unfair trade?
What week does your fantasy season end? Miles Austin is listed out 2-4 weeks which would make him due back by week 11-13.
Also Marshawn Lynch hasn't done much anyhow and he seems to be looking at just this past week.
3) Should I say anything to the league?
Yes I would challenge it.
The ONLY reason the trade should even be considered be void void is if Austin was out for the year.
I would also be even more suspicous if the Commissioner's team is a playoff-bound.

CoolBreeze22 · Nov 10, 2011

without looking at your league standings and rosters it's hard to make a full assessment of fair or not. It looks like Austin may be out for the remainder of your fantasy regular season so I could see people in your league having a problem with that. Just my honest opinion.

CoolBreeze22 · Nov 10, 2011

btw- i think point per carry is dumb, it defeats the intended purpose of PPR all together.

shdw01 · Nov 10, 2011

Hache, thanks for answering the 3 questions.....commish is in 3rd place but the veto is 1/3 majority...everyone can veto....so took 4 votes....

shdw01 · Nov 10, 2011

fwiw, one of the guys I think that vetoed me just has a trade pending (he is in 2nd place)

he is giving up Ingram and V Cruz for Reggie Wayne and McGahee?

does that seem fishy?

HacheMan · Nov 10, 2011

shdw01 said:
Hache, thanks for answering the 3 questions.....commish is in 3rd place but the veto is 1/3 majority...everyone can veto....so took 4 votes....

Sounds like you're either being hated on by the others since you're in 1st place, or the Commish is running a corupt league, which I'll explain further below.

shdw01 said:
fwiw, one of the guys I think that vetoed me just has a trade pending (he is in 2nd place)

he is giving up Ingram and V Cruz for Reggie Wayne and McGahee?

does that seem fishy?

That trade sounds MUCH more suspicious than yours.

I've stressed in the past that players should not join a league online with anyone they do not know.
You simply don't know the truth.

Here's just an example......

I could announce that I have a 12 man league, $250 entry free, and that I only have 4 teams left available.
Who would even know if those other 8 teams really had legitimate owners?
I could easily be running those 8 teams and scam 4 others to join, and now it's my 8 teams vs those 4.
If I'm taking the money, then I have nothing at risk. I'm just hoping my one or more of my 8 teams can do better than the other 4 guys who actually put money up.

Be very careful when choosing to play online vs people you don't know.

shdw01 · Nov 10, 2011

Hache, I understand the scenario you described...but i'm positive the league isn't corrupt....my brother-in-law needed some people, so me and 2 of my buddies joined this league. Also I know 2 other newbies that joined the league from a poker game I go to (friendly game). not to mention my brother in law and his sister also are in....so i really know 6 other managers besides me in the 12-man league.

fwiw, I know my bro-in-law was one of the 4 vetos....he also told me about this trade saying it looks fishy....(he is the commish in 3rd)

HacheMan · Nov 10, 2011

Ok shdw gotcha.
I was just throwing that out there for everyone else so they are careful in the future.

Did your bro-in-law give you a reason as to why it was turned down?
There is no reason it shouldn't have gone through.
The ONLY reason would be if Austin was listed out for the year, as ECS mentioned above, but he is only listed out until week 11-13.

Their vetoes sure seem suspicous as they you're in 1st place and your weak spot is RB and you are looking to approve it and make your team even stronger.
But maybe it's a blessing in disguise since Lynch hasn't done much all year anyhow besides that one game.

Make another attempt with someone and see what happens.

shdw01 · Nov 10, 2011

here is the only response I got:

I think if Austin wasn't such an uncertainty with his injury, then it would have gone through. If this was last week before he got hurt, or Roddy White for Lynch, no problem. Just speaking for myself, and I normally let most trades go provided they are reasonably even in my humble opinion. I guess that's why it's good that everyone has the chance to vote because everyone might have a different view. I was asked the question by several managers, and it takes 4 votes to veto a trade, 1/3 of the league.

Next year we can leave the trade approval as manager vote, but final approval for the veto will have to come from yahoo sports. That way no one can say anyone is in kahoots. But I am glad the 1st place guy didn't get any stronger, you're going to be hard enough to catch as it is...lol.

HacheMan · Nov 10, 2011

shdw01 said:
here is the only response I got:

I think if Austin wasn't such an uncertainty with his injury, then it would have gone through. If this was last week before he got hurt, or Roddy White for Lynch, no problem. Just speaking for myself, and I normally let most trades go provided they are reasonably even in my humble opinion. I guess that's why it's good that everyone has the chance to vote because everyone might have a different view. I was asked the question by several managers, and it takes 4 votes to veto a trade, 1/3 of the league.

Next year we can leave the trade approval as manager vote, but final approval for the veto will have to come from yahoo sports. That way no one can say anyone is in kahoots. But I am glad the 1st place guy didn't get any stronger, you're going to be hard enough to catch as it is...lol.

His last sentence says it all and was exactly my point.
You had no chance to succeed in making your team even stronger that it already is and in 1st place.

That's the advantage to leagues with no trades.
There is no controversy.

I'm in a league at Rtsports and there are no trades allowed.
At first I didn't like the idea but it makes things my simpler.

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