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Since this forum has bottomed out to posts about who's the smartest, I might as well throw another silly post to add to the nonsense. Of course this nonsense was directed at anyone that was claiming we were on the road to recovery just because jobless claims came down due to seasonal hiring (which Bill accurately predicted). Let's all bow to Bill now for his astute prediction. In fairness, the one idiot crowing about this incredible improvement of jobless claims was the 5 year old of the forum, so it wasn't a big deal to most of us. Most of us just ignore his idiotic comments.

U.S. Jobless Claims Rise More Than Forecast

By Shobhana Chandra - Jan 12, 2012 5:49 AM PT

Jan. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Sales at U.S. retailers in December rose 0.1 percent, less than forecast, following a 0.4 percent advance in November that was more than initially reported, Commerce Department figures showed today. Meanwhile, jobless claims climbed by 24,000 to 399,000 in the week ended Jan. 7, according to the Labor Department.

More Americans than forecast filed applications for unemployment benefits last week, raising the possibility that a greater-than-usual increase in temporary holiday hiring boosted December payrolls.

Jobless claims climbed by 24,000 to 399,000 in the week ended Jan. 7, Labor Department figures showed today in Washington. The median forecast of 46 economists in a Bloomberg News survey projected 375,000. The number of people on unemployment benefit rolls rose, while those receiving extended payments decreased.

Hiring by package delivery companies and retailers during the holidays to meet demand for gifts may now be giving way to an increase in dismissals. At the same time, claims figures are subject to greater volatility during this time of year, as the government has trouble adjusting the data for the seasonal swings in employment.

“There is usually a surge in seasonal layoffs at this time, and that is what’s happening here,” said Jonathan Basile, a senior economist at Credit Suisse in New York, who projected claims would jump to 405,000. “Claims have shown an improving trend. It’s a vote of confidence for continued improvement in the labor market.”

Retail sales in December rose less than forecast, restrained by cheaper fuel prices and holiday discounting that helped hold down the value of goods purchased, figures from the Commerce Department also showed today. The 0.1 percent gain followed a 0.4 percent advance in November that was more than initially reported.


Stock-index futures trimmed earlier gains after the reports. The contract on the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index maturing in March climbed 0.1 percent to 1,289.6 at 8:48 a.m. in New York. It had been up as much as 0.7 percent earlier.
Jobless claims were projected to increase from 372,000 initially reported for the prior week, according to the Bloomberg survey. Estimates ranged from 352,000 to 405,000. The Labor Department revised the previous week’s figure up to 375,000.

A Labor Department spokesman said there was nothing unusual in the data and no states or territories were estimated. The seasonal-adjustment projected a 12 percent increase in claims during the first week of January. Instead, unadjusted applications climbed by 19 percent, he said.

Seasonal Volatility

The week-to-week changes in claims may differ from economists’ forecasts as adjusting the data for seasonal variations is difficult around this time of the year, said Joshua Shapiro, chief U.S. economist at Maria Fiorini Ramirez Inc. in New York.

“Seasonal volatility injects considerable uncertainty into projections of these data for another couple of weeks,” Shapiro said in a note this month.

The four-week moving average, a less volatile measure than the weekly figures, increased to 381,750 last week from 374,000.

The number of people continuing to receive jobless benefits rose by 19,000 in the week ended Dec. 31 to 3.63 million.

The continuing claims figure does not include the number of Americans receiving extended benefits under federal programs.

Those who’ve used up their traditional benefits and are now collecting emergency and extended payments decreased by about 48,500 to 3.45 million in the week ended Dec. 24.

Employers trying to trim costs include Archer Daniels Midland Co. The world’s largest grain processor plans to cut about 1,000 jobs, or 3 percent of its workforce, in part by offering voluntary retirement incentives and severance.

Cutting Jobs

“These actions will help us enhance our productivity and earnings power,” Patricia Woertz, chief executive officer of Decatur, Illinois-based ADM, said in a statement yesterday.

The unemployment rate among people eligible for benefits, which tends to track the jobless rate, held at to 2.9 percent, today’s report showed.

Twenty-six states and territories reported an increase in claims, while 27 reported a decrease. These data are reported with a one-week lag.

Initial jobless claims reflect weekly firings and tend to fall as job growth -- measured by the monthly non-farm payrolls report -- accelerates.

Payrolls climbed by 200,000 workers in December after rising by 100,000 the prior month, and the jobless rate fell to 8.5 percent, the lowest level in almost three years, Labor Department figures showed on Jan. 6.

Seasonal Employment

About 40,000 of the increase in December payrolls represented a jump in hiring at courier and messenger services like FedEx Corp.

Employers created 1.64 million jobs in 2011, the best year for the American worker since 2006. Even with the gains, much needs to be done toward recovering the 8.75 million jobs lost as a result of the recession that ended in June 2009.

The economy “expanded at a modest to moderate pace” from late November through the end of December, while most industries saw “limited permanent hiring,” the Federal Reserve said in its Beige Book anecdotal business survey released yesterday. “The combination of limited permanent hiring in most sectors and numerous active job seekers has continued to keep a lid on general wage increases.”

Fed policy makers next meet on Jan. 24-25.
 

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The number of BillHill thread titles on a pace to pass Barman if this keeps up
 

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Bill Hill is right 99% of the time. However in the next year when Easy Street stiffs him, and everyone else in this Forum.......
 

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Bill Hill is right 99% of the time. However in the next year when Easy Street stiffs him, and everyone else in this Forum.......

I'm the absolute very last person they will stiff.
(trust me on this)
 

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You know what's ironic about this thread?
I just got the biggest (salary wise) job offer I ever received in my life. (of course I accepted)
New Haven. Willie, I'm moving on up (towards you)
 

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Hope I'm wrong Bill........But read your sentence again in Post #5 as it could have a double meaning.

Congrats on the new job!
 

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You know what's ironic about this thread?
I just got the biggest (salary wise) job offer I ever received in my life. (of course I accepted)
New Haven. Willie, I'm moving on up (towards you)

:toast:
 

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Right by Yale, on the good side of the tracks.
Mitt pulled some strings for me.
 

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To quote a great American: FOUR MORE YEARS.

Bill, I have a chuckle every time I see you post them.

P.S. Congrats on your new gig.
 

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Vit in 5,4,3,2

A bit surprised you feel the need to pile on like the rest of the jackals. Thought you were independent voice who didn't have to buddy up to the crazy right wingers.

All good though....keep it coming. Broad shoulders.
 

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Now for the bad news, since I wasn't on the unemployment rolls, I can't help that dismal unemployment figure to go up.

Four more years!
 

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Vit in 5,4,3,2


:):) Right on cue
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A bit surprised you feel the need to pile on like the rest of the jackals. Thought you were independent voice who didn't have to buddy up to the crazy right wingers.

All good though....keep it coming. Broad shoulders.

I was only making a prediction. I don't take sides in battles between posters unless they are debating an issue. I am not against you Vit and have tried to advise you in the past.

Whether you admit it or not I can see these guys are getting to you. My recommendation stays the same -- Post to the post, not the poster.

Shred their arguments on the issues. It's better than entering every thread and saying, "This one is the dumbest MFer on this forum, and that one is always sucking him off."
Isn't it?
 

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congrats on the new gig, Bill! nicely done

(although I only think you're right about 42% of the time in this forum) :)

wow, scott, you nailed that countdown! good stuff
 

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I was only making a prediction. I don't take sides in battles between posters unless they are debating an issue. I am not against you Vit and have tried to advise you in the past.

Whether you admit it or not I can see these guys are getting to you. My recommendation stays the same -- Post to the post, not the poster.

Shred their arguments on the issues. It's better than entering every thread and saying, "This one is the dumbest MFer on this forum, and that one is always sucking him off."
Isn't it?

Seems you are only reading my responses and not what I'm responding to.

These usual dummies don't get to me. The only thing that bothers me is level headed people who no better that don't have the guts to call some of these guys out for obvious lies and distortions of facts.

If I was actually bothered or care what the idiots thought do u really think I woulda responded to your 5,4,3,2,1 post? I know that more fodder for the kids.

I would only ask you consider this. Don't you think it is the behavior of children who use an ignore function, brag about it and then talk about the person they are ignoring in over half their posts?

I have shredded their arguments on many occasions. They respond that I am in love with obama....how does one respond?

I know you say you don't take sides but seem to have no problem taking jabs at me(which is fine) but refuse to make comments to others for their ridiculous childish behavior. Just be consistent. I expect that out of the people I consider normal. I understand the billhills, dave007's , bfl's, fest zits and some others aren't capable of it....but I think you are.I ask that you read this and respond honestly to everything with a question mark behind it. I look forward to your response . Thx.
 

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