Ryan Braun's statement today

SoCal · Feb 24, 2012

Sorry Bud... It's lip service and you're just another player denying a cheating charge. CNN is calling it a "strong statement". In summary he defends his character and suggests if he had cheated he'd be the first one to step up and admit it.

Hey RB... you're talking to yourself. Even if you're innocent, how many times have we heard denials from others that have been accused who were found to be guilty liars. Save your breath buddy. None of us want to hear it.... really.

(this message has been brought you by Joe SixPack - who wishes he played a game for a living)

scottcarter · Feb 24, 2012

he said he offered to give a DNA sample but MLB refused. Seems like he was indeed falsely accused.

celticGreen+ · Feb 24, 2012

I don't really care if he used or not, seems the most likely answer is that something other than PEDs caused the positive test results... BUT, how do we know who's guilty now? When the next guy gets "caught" what are fans to think? My only point is that if the players can't be trusted, and the test can't be trusted, and if the validity of the test results are essentially voted on... What's the point?

DrunkenHorseplayer · Feb 24, 2012

He walked on a technicality and is guilty as hell.

SoCal · Feb 24, 2012

I am not even interested in his guilt or innocence. He's simply another player denying a cheating charge. What has history shown us? These denials are usually egotistical masturbation. I don't have the time, energy, or interest in having an opinion about this kid's character. It's wasted breath on his part. He can fall in line with the rest of the accused and deal with it. He plays a game for a living and this situation comes with the territory. History has shown us these guys are blowing smoke. Who really gives a sht anyway? I guess his statement might be important to repair his marketing image. More $$$ down the line if he can fool people into thinking he is Mr. Moral Stud

---Joe SixPack needs a beer

JackStraw77 · Feb 24, 2012

Come on, does anyone believe the person who handled the sample had an axe to grind with Braun and spiked the urine with synthetic testosterone. Maybe he just took steroids to recover from an injury and stopped using after that. The bottom line is he lied. The fact that he won't admit to the smallest infraction indicates to me he was using a non detectable designer steroid and it didn't leave his system quick enough.

flashmo · Feb 24, 2012

if he wasn't guilty, he wouldn't have been accused of anything

boatboatboat · Feb 24, 2012

They should allow all players to use what ever they want to.

Fans love home runs, and 100 mph fastballs.

let em play.

Defying · Feb 24, 2012

boatboatboat said:
They should allow all players to use what ever they want to.

Fans love home runs, and 100 mph fastballs.

let em play.

actually don't completely disagree with this.... don't know how awful steriods are for your body, but if its no worse than alcohol, I hate to admit that I agree

Defying · Feb 24, 2012

I am always surprised when I am on the opposite of these issues.

I tend to believe people.. maybe I am naive... but I believe Braun... I am not sure how it happened, but I don't think he did take steriods at all..

I think his statement was as genuine as it could of been... It's hard to explain how the testostrone was 3 times higher in any test they have ever seen, clearly raises questions about what was wrong.... Steriods have effects on the body and he didn't show any of that...

This contraversay has made me like Braun more than I did before..

TheRightSide · Feb 24, 2012

Defying said:
I am always surprised when I am on the opposite of these issues.

I tend to believe people.. maybe I am naive... but I believe Braun... I am not sure how it happened, but I don't think he did take steriods at all..

I think his statement was as genuine as it could of been... It's hard to explain how the testostrone was 3 times higher in any test they have ever seen, clearly raises questions about what was wrong.... Steriods have effects on the body and he didn't show any of that...

This contraversay has made me like Braun more than I did before..

More stupid then naive. How many times do you have to see in the end the player is a liar. That makes you to be the fool. Why would you believe him. He needs to defend himself all the way. Hell just the money he will now get is 3 mil

Defying · Feb 24, 2012

TheRightSide said:
More stupid then naive. How many times do you have to see in the end the player is a liar. That makes you to be the fool. Why would you believe him. He needs to defend himself all the way. Hell just the money he will now get is 3 mil

so there's no way any person can ever be wrongly accused??

There's a big difference in Braun and Bonds denial.

TheRightSide · Feb 24, 2012

Defying said:
so there's no way any person can ever be wrongly accused??

There's a big difference in Braun and Bonds denial.

No I just think people are people and they wil lie and cheat and whatever else they can do to keep making that kind of money. Like I said how many times does it have to smack you in the face before you wise up. Just don't understand.

I am the type of person who does not hero worship anyone not close to me. Whem other people talk about people being thier heros and shit like that I think that they are stupid.

Trust nothing they say when there is millions on the line.

Soriano12 · Feb 24, 2012

Defying said:
There's a big difference in Braun and Bonds denial.

Please elaborate...

Marion Jones, Maurice Greene and tons of others have passed a shitload of tests before being caught, just because he was tested negative 25times doesn't tell anything. Maybe they didn't test for the whole stuff they are testing now, maybe he just was lucky that the substance wasn't detectable anymore because his doping schedule was better. Him offering to take any test 2.5 weeks after the positive test is complete nonsense since there are certain time frames when stuff is detectable and when it's not anymore.
Also not every PED has to show up in a transforming body or has to be measurable, fwiw I could even get 0.1 - 0.2sec slower or slightly lose power between my 23rd and 28th birthday for whatever reasons, so if I'm still running the same times or be bench pressing the same weights, that doesn't prove I didn't juice since my decline was nullified by me taking PEDs...

Why should the collector tamper with his sample? What does he gain by doing so? If he wanted to ruin his career, why would he tamper with it in a way that exceeds the limits by that much? Would be far less suspicious to slightly elevate the levels instead of going way over the top...looks far more believable to me that he messed up his juicing schedule or some substance, that was supposed to mask his "efforts", simply failed to work or ...

SoCal · Feb 24, 2012

August 2, 2005 ...
"Baltimore Orioles slugger Rafael Palmeiro, 4 1/2 months after pointing an index finger at Congress and insisting under oath that he had never used steroids, has been busted for steroid use under baseball's new testing policy."

Defying · Feb 24, 2012

If it was SO obvious then why was the decision overturned. There is absolutely no doubt the burden of proof is on the player.

TheRightSide · Feb 24, 2012

Defying said:
If it was SO obvious then why was the decision overturned. There is absolutely no doubt the burden of proof is on the player.

HAHAHA well ok I am going to say "stupid" again. The process was not followed 100% correctly. Is this a level if not I feel bad or you. lol

Soriano12 · Feb 24, 2012

Defying said:
If it was SO obvious then why was the decision overturned.

There is a huge difference between being acquitted because being proven innocent and having a case thrown out because of a f***in procedural error (<)<

celticGreen+ · Feb 24, 2012

Defying said:
If it was SO obvious then why was the decision overturned. There is absolutely no doubt the burden of proof is on the player.

Because an independent arbiter got to make the decision, and we have no idea what his knowledge on doping is, or what "side" he naturally was sympathetic to. I know you're a bright guy, but the statement above is silly if you've bothered to read a few articles on the story. He didn't even get off on a technicality, he got off on a moron ruling that there was a technicality, that really was a non-issue (according to the USA anti-doping folks).

Defying · Feb 24, 2012

Soriano12 said:
There is a huge difference between being acquitted because being proven innocent and having a case thrown out because of a f***in procedural error (<)<

I agree.... but isn't just a single sample? Why don't they take 2 at that time? Isn't that what cyclist do?

I believe there is more to the story... I believe more info to support Bruan will come out later.. particularly if he pursues legal action.. which if he really is innocent, he should even if he doesn't have a "legal" case at least he can present all the information out there...

Isn't the 3 times of the most testorone EVER in a MLB test raise questions? Something isn't right