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US soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians in shooting spree, deepening crisis over Qur’an burnings

BALANDI, Afghanistan - An American soldier opened fire on villagers near his base in southern Afghanistan Sunday and killed 16 civilians, according to President Hamid Karzai, who called it an "assassination" and furiously demanded an explanation from Washington. Nine children and three women were among the dead.
The killing spree deepened a crisis between U.S. forces and their Afghan hosts over Americans burning Muslim holy books on a base in Afghanistan last month. The Qur’an burnings sparked weeks of violent protests and attacks that left some 30 dead. Six U.S. service members have been killed by their Afghan colleagues since the burnings came to light, and the violence had just started to calm down.
"This is an assassination, an intentional killing of innocent civilians and cannot be forgiven," Karzai said in a statement. He said he has repeatedly demanded the U.S. stop killing Afghan civilians.
President Barack Obama phoned Afghan President Hamid Karzai to express his shock and sadness at the killing and wounding of Afghan civilians. He offered condolences to the grieving families of those killed and to the people of Afghanistan.
In a statement released by the White House, Obama called the attack "tragic and shocking" and not representative of "the exceptional character of our military and the respect that the United States has for the people of Afghanistan." He vowed "to get the facts as quickly as possible and to hold accountable anyone responsible."
The violence over the Qur’an burnings had already spurred calls in the U.S. for a faster exit strategy from the 10-year-old Afghan war. Obama even said recently that "now is the time for us to transition." But he also said he had no plan to change the current timetable that has Afghans taking control of security countrywide by the end of 2014.
In the wake of the Qur’an burnings, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. John Allen, visited troops at a base that was attacked last month and urged them not to give in to the impulse for revenge.
The tensions between the two countries had appeared to be easing as recently as Friday, when the two governments signed a memorandum of understanding about the transfer of Afghan detainees to Afghan control — a key step toward an eventual strategic partnership to govern U.S. forces in the country.
Sunday's shooting could push that agreement further away.
"This is a fatal hammer blow on the U.S. military mission in Afghanistan. Whatever sliver of trust and credibility we might have had following the burnings of the Qur’an is now gone," said David Cortright, the director of policy studies at Notre Dame's Kroc Institute for International Peace Studies and an advocate for a quick withdrawal from Afghanistan.
"This may have been the act of a lone, deranged soldier. But the people of Afghanistan will see it for what it was, a wanton massacre of innocent civilians," Cortright said.
The attack began around 3 a.m. in two villages in Panjwai district, a rural suburb of Kandahar and a traditional Taliban stronghold where coalition forces have fought for control for years. The villages — Balandi and Alkozai — are about 500 yards (meters) from a U.S. base.
The gunman went into three houses and opened fire, said a resident of Alkozai, Abdul Baqi, citing accounts from his neighbours.
"When it was happening in the middle of the night, we were inside our houses. I heard gunshots and then silence and then gunshots again," Baqi said.
One villager said eleven of those killed were members of his family, many of them women and children.
An AP photographer saw 15 bodies in the two villages caught up in the shooting. Some of the bodies had been burned, while others were covered with blankets. A young boy partially wrapped in a blanket was in the back of a minibus, dried blood crusted on his face and pooled in his ear. His loose-fitting brown pants were partly burned, revealing a leg charred by fire.
An AP photo showed the bloodstained corner of a house next to a large black area that was charred by fire. The charred area appeared to be remnants of blankets and possibly bodies that had been set on fire.
Villagers packed inside the minibus looked on with concern as a woman spoke to reporters. She pulled back a blanket to reveal the body of a smaller child wearing what appeared to be red pyjamas. A third dead child lay in a pile of green blankets in the bed of a truck.
A U.S. official in Washington said the American, an Army staff sergeant, was believed to have acted alone and that initial reports indicated he returned to the base after the shooting and turned himself in.
However Karzai's statement left some confusion on the point. He spoke of a single U.S. gunman, but in another part of the statement referred to "American forces" entering the houses.
It also said the president spoke by phone to one of the five people wounded in the attack, a 15-year-old named Rafiullah, who was shot in the leg. The statement said the teenager told Karzai that American soldiers entered his house in the middle of the night, woke up his family and began shooting them.
NATO officials apologized for the shootings but did not confirm that anyone was killed, referring instead to reports of deaths.
"This deeply appalling incident in no way represents the values of ISAF and coalition troops or the abiding respect we feel for the Afghan people," Allen said in a statement, using the abbreviation for NATO's International Security Assistance Force.
He pledged a "rapid and thorough investigation" and vowed to ensure that "anyone who is found to have committed wrongdoing is held fully accountable."
NATO spokesman Justin Brockhoff said a U.S. service member had been detained at a NATO base as the alleged shooter. The wounded people were evacuated to NATO medical facilities, he added.
International forces have fought for control of Panjwai for years as they've tried to subdue the Taliban in their rural strongholds. The Taliban movement started just to the north of Panjwai, and many of the militant group's senior leaders, including chief Mullah Omar, were born, raised, fought or preached in the area. Omar once ran an Islamic school in an area of Panjwai that has since been carved into a new district.
In addition to its symbolic significance, the district is an important base for the Taliban to target the city of Kandahar to the east. Panjwai was seen as key to securing Kandahar when U.S. forces flooded the province as part of Obama's strategy to surge in the south starting in 2009.
Twelve of the dead were from Balandi, said Samad Khan, a farmer who lost all 11 members of his family, including women and children. Khan was away from the village when the incident occurred and returned to find his family members shot and burned. One of his neighbours was also killed, he said.
"This is an anti-human and anti-Islamic act," said Khan. "Nobody is allowed in any religion in the world to kill children and women."
Khan and other villagers demanded that Karzai punish the American shooter.
"Otherwise we will make a decision," said Khan. "He should be handed over to us."
The four people killed in the village of Alkozai were all from one family, said a female relative who was shouting in anger. She did not give her name because of the conservative nature of local society.
"No Taliban were here. No gunbattle was going on," said the woman. "We don't know why this foreign soldier came and killed our innocent family members. Either he was drunk or he was enjoying killing civilians."
The Taliban called the shootings the latest sign that international forces are working against the Afghan people.
"The so-called American peace keepers have once again quenched their thirst with the blood of innocent Afghan civilians in Kandahar province," the Taliban said in a statement posted on a website used by the insurgent group.
Karzai said he was sending a high-level delegation to investigate.
U.S. forces have been implicated before in other violence in the same area.
Four soldiers from a Stryker brigade out of Lewis-McChord, Washington, have been sent to prison in connection with the 2010 killing of three unarmed men during patrols in Kandahar province's Maiwand district, which is just northwest of Panjwai. They were accused of forming a "kill team" that murdered Afghan civilians for sport — slaughtering victims with grenades and powerful machine-guns during patrols, then dropping weapons near their bodies to make them appear to have been combatants.
And in January, before the Qur’an burning incident, a video that purportedly showed U.S. Marines urinating on corpses of men they had killed sparked widespread outrage.
Obama has apologized for the Qur’an burnings and said they were a mistake. The Qurans and other Islamic books were taken from a detention facility and dumped in a burn pit last month because they were believed to contain extremist messages or inscriptions. A military official said at the time that it appeared detainees were exchanging messages by making notations in the texts.
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Vogt reported from Kabul, Afghanistan. Associated Press writers Sebastian Abbot and Rahim Faiez in Kabul and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington contributed to this report. AP photographer Allauddin Khan contributed from Balandi.
 

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I realize that there was no need to post the entire article as nobody is going to take the time to read through it. I just figured in case anybody wanted to skim through all of it otherwise the title and the first paragraph pretty much summarizes what happened.

So yeah, what a disgrace. No excuse for this whatsoever. I can't wait till that soldier is held accountable by U.S law and punished. The humiliation and disgrace he brought on himself, his country and especially his family is something he can never undo. Way to go dumbass. Have fun lowering you head in shame when you get home not to mention lowering your family members' heads.
 

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turn him over to the village ass naked to fend from himself
 

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Wow...dude killed 9 kids. I wonder how much help the soldiers get with their mental health. Looks like this dude just snapped.

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There's nothing to be gained be staying there! Listen to Ron Paul & more recently Newt, bring the troops home!
 

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I realize that there was no need to post the entire article as nobody is going to take the time to read through it. I just figured in case anybody wanted to skim through all of it otherwise the title and the first paragraph pretty much summarizes what happened.

So yeah, what a disgrace. No excuse for this whatsoever. I can't wait till that soldier is held accountable by U.S law and punished. The humiliation and disgrace he brought on himself, his country and especially his family is something he can never undo. Way to go dumbass. Have fun lowering you head in shame when you get home not to mention lowering your family members' heads.


This shit happens every day in the land of Islam. Funny, you don't get
your panties in a wad, prancing around about that?

Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace
"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another"
Quran 48:29

2012.03.11 (Tarmiyah, Iraq) - Four women are among five family members brutally shot to death in their own home.

2012.03.11 (Jos, Nigeria) - A suicide bomber detonates at a Catholic church during mass, killing at least ten worshippers.

2012.03.11 (Baqubah, Iraq) - A Mujahideen bomb in front of a cafe leaves two civilians dead.

2012.03.11 (Badabher, Pakistan) - A Shahid suicide bomber detonates at a funeral, sending fifteen mourners to Allah.

2012.03.10 (Khadim Solangi Goth, Pakistan) - A father hacks his 24-year-old daughter up with an axe on suspicion of a sexual affair.

2012.03.10 (Nairobi, Kenya) - al-Shabaab Islamists throw three grenades into a bus station, killing six people.
 

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But this was an American soldier. You're not comparing us to them, are you?
 

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Zit you stupid moron. First of all, you are a hypocrite and a troll. I jump on every chance to bash the U.S? If I did that I'd be posting constantly you halfwit. Haha. It's more like you jump on every chance to post shit against me.

In the land of Islam? No you dumbass. Islam has nothing to do with it. Besides, are you really going to be stupid enough to burn yourself yet again? Do I have to spell it out for you? I have nothing against the U.S. I have said a hundred times that I have made all the arrangements to shift my business to the States this summer and can't wait. Not too bright are you?

Also, I post it because I, we all expect much more from people from the West. It's simple as that. We just expect more and we can't have people doing that shit especially at a time when the U.S is probably one of the most hated countries in the world right now and targeted by so many.

Get a clue zit. Seriously get a clue you dumb troll.
 

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Nope, but it is interesting to note that whenever Jaguara gets a chance to bash the US he jumps on it.

You're a troll and a hypocrite and an ignorant clown that hangs around internet forums flooding the politics room with your garbage and copy and pasted materials. You are pathetic.

Silly troll....
 

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We need to gtfo and stay out, this is all just nonsense. Could you fucking imagine if you woke up one morning and seen another countries military tanks and troops on our streets. Telling us what and how to do things? This whole damn thing isn't even about what most Americans believe it is.
 

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Same thing with Iraq, we have to go in or they will blow us up. Shut the fuck up with the lies and tell us why you really want to invade. Then bush jokes about not finding WMDs and everyone just laughs. It blows my mind that Americans are so stupid to believe what we are told.
 

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Now they are going to put up drones in American skies, wtf? What for, to make sure the cave dwelling evil terrorists 1000 miles away don't hurt us? Get fucking real, this shit just pisses me off that no one gives a shit, no one ever even questions anything important. Why the hell do you need a toy helicopter watching me in my house? The war is against us, American citizens and we don't even care or we are to stupid to realize.
 

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Same thing with Iraq, we have to go in or they will blow us up. Shut the fuck up with the lies and tell us why you really want to invade. Then bush jokes about not finding WMDs and everyone just laughs. It blows my mind that Americans are so stupid to believe what we are told.

No kidding. What a joke that was. Imagine China or some other country making up some weak excuse and bombing the fuck out of U.S because they thought that the U.S MIGHT have been a threat to them in the future.

It's a fucked up system when you are going around invading countries before they even attack.

Oldest story in the book with strong empires, countries etc that get drunk with power. Eventually they destroy themselves or get destroyed. Time for Americans to wake up and start putting their feet down against the U.S foreign policies and domestic policies. It's getting to be a joke. This clown Obama comes in and he's just picking up where that moron Bush left off. Running the nation into the ground with one bad decision after another.
 

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What's annoying too is the stupid smirk that Bush and Obama always seem to have. There's innocent Afghan civillians being killed for no reason and U.S soldiers being shot down or killed in bombings when they have no good reason to be out there in the first place.

Yet tune into one of Bush's old news conferences etc or Obamas and you will always see that conceited smirk on their faces. Must be easy sending these soldiers out there for a stupid so called cause and when a U.S soldier is killed all Obama has to do is come on tv and give some stupid speech and give his condolences to the soldier's family and then it's over and done. The soldier's family has lost a father, son, husband brother, etc and they can't even tell themselves...''at least he died fighting to protect our country.'' No. No he didn't.
 

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My biggest question is how did this guy get out of his compound unnoticed. The report says the attack started around 3:00 AM. What did he tell the guards, he was just going to run down to 7-11 for an icee. The responsibility goes uphill in this instance.
 

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all in the name of keeping America free
 

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