Top value bets for Sunday's games
By Dave Tuley/Chad Millman
ESPN INSIDER
LAS VEGAS -- While Thursday's chalk-fest was an ATM for the for March Madness tourists here in town and kept most of America smiling about how clean their brackets looked, Friday busted all of that.
No. 15 seed Norfolk State beat No. 2 Missouri 86-84 as a 21-point underdog. No. 15 seed Lehigh beat No. 2 Duke 75-70 as an 11.5-point 'dog. No. 13 seed Ohio beat No. 4 Michigan 65-60 as a 6-point 'dog. No. 12 seed South Florida beat No. 5 seed Temple 58-44 as a 3.5 point underdog. And there were smaller upsets by Saint Louis, Purdue and Xavier (note: No. 11 NC State was the betting favorite over No. 6 San Diego State).
Actually, underdogs went only 8-7-1 against the spread on Friday, but it's the upsets that resonate in the collective subconscious of college basketball fans and the games that draw the most attention on "SportsCenter."
To make sense of the madness that those upsets left us with, I placed a call late Friday night to Sal Selvaggio of Maddux Sports (madduxsports.com and on Twitter @sportspicks) to help talk me through my handicapping of Sunday's matchups.
"Thursday was filled with terrible matchups and boring games, but today [Friday] was awesome," Selvaggio said. "This is what we want March Madness to be all about, though I actually made more money on Thursday."
Let's take a look at Sunday's games:
Midwest
No. 1 North Carolina Tar Heels versus No. 8 Creighton Bluejays
Spread: North Carolina minus-9
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Selvaggio: "I bet Creighton +2 against Bama on Friday and came out of that game more impressed with how good Alabama was. That being said I have loved this Creighton team all year and I still think the Bluejays offer some value on Sunday. Teams that play in their home state have been good bets over the years but, that is the only thing keeping this from a big bet. I think Creighton will be able to score enough to keep this one close and should have much better looks at the basket compared to the Alabama game, especially if John Henson's defense is missing.
Finally, there are only five teams in the tournament field that shoot free throws worse than UNC, meaning if we get into a late-game foul-fest Creighton could possibly sneak in the back door because of that liability.
Tuley: "I'm high on Creighton myself, though my bet on them is as much against North Carolina covering this number (though the Heels did cover the 16-point spread in a 19-point win over Vermont), which I personally feel should be closer to 6, so that adds value (assuming I'm not being biased). As of this writing, Henson is listed as questionable, which helps."
No. 2 Kansas Jayhawks versus No. 10 Purdue Boilermakers
Spread: Kansas minus-8
Selvaggio: "Purdue's Matt Painter has always been a great bet off a loss, but not so much after a win. Purdue was 0-7 against teams in the Big Ten that are close to Kansas' level -- Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan State, Ohio State -- while being blown out in five of them. Both teams benefitted from poor 3-point shooting by their opponents, but Kansas' defense is light-years ahead of Purdue's.
The Boilermakers are fantastic at not turning the ball over, but they are a very poor free throw shooting team, below-average offensive rebounding team, and don't do a good job at getting to the foul line. These are all things that teams that cover games in the NCAA tournament do well. I feel these deficiencies will rear their head Sunday and against a team like Kansas really do them in. Kansas minus whatever is worth a good-sized bet.
Tuley: "I'm not going to argue with that, as Purdue's performance against top-level teams has been very poor. If this line was in double digits, I might be able to make a case for the Boilermakers covering (or at least on Kansas not winning by margin), but I'll pass.
No. 3 Georgetown Hoyas versus No. 11 North Carolina State Wolfpack
Spread: Georgetown minus-4
Tuley: I'm passing this game as well. North Carolina State is playing its best basketball now, but Georgetown is solid and this line seems short, even though it's the same as it was against No. 14 seed Belmont, though I thought that line was short, too."
Selvaggio: "This line, to me, is ridiculous. Georgetown would have been favored by 10 points a month ago and now you are laying 4. Georgetown was ultra-impressive in torching Belmont, a top-25-rated team by wiseguys, while NC State won against an over-seeded and overrated San Diego State. Good luck preparing for John Thompson III's complex offensive/defensive schemes. To prove my point about how difficult these schemes are since Thompson took over at Georgetown, here's a stat worth noting: His teams are 51-27 against the spread against nonconference teams including 7-0 ATS this season. I made this game Georgetown minus-8 and bet a ton at minus-3.5. This is the best play on the board."
No. 12 South Florida Bulls versus No. 13 Ohio Bobcats
Spread: USF minus-3
Selvaggio: "Ohio clearly outplayed John Beilein and Michigan, which is very impressive. Ohio is one of the best teams in the country at creating turnovers and defending the 3-point line, but it is just an average offensive team. As for South Florida, I have no idea how the Bulls keep winning. Yes, they defend their rear ends off, but on offense they don't get to the line, their turnover percentage is atrocious, and they can't shoot the 3. Rather than lose another bet fading them I will likely be sitting this one out."
Tuley: "I'm sitting out the side as well, but I'll jump in on the under (opened 114.5). That has the feel of a square play as obviously everyone keeps talking about how South Florida is all about defense and both teams are offensively challenged. Oddsmakers set the number low, but there's only so low they can go. It's not like they can post a 102, the combined score in USF's 58-44 win over Temple, but I believe it'll be close to that number."
East
No. 3 Florida State Seminoles versus No. 6 Cincinnati Bearcats
Spread: Florida State minus-2.5
Selvaggio: "My numbers make Florida State a 2-point favorite, which is pretty close to the line. A small coaching advantage goes to Leonard Hamilton. I don't like that FSU had to use so much energy just to win on Friday, as this can often come back to haunt you a day later. I wasn't impressed with Cincinnati either, and Texas gave the Bearcats the game more than them it. Cincinnati's poor free throw shooting will knock it out eventually and I just don't feel like trying to guess when that might be. I won't be betting this game."
Tuley: "As we talked on the phone late Friday, this line went from Florida State minus-1.5 to minus-2.5, so someone -- or more likely some group -- likes the Seminoles, but I'm passing as well. Sal's comment about Cincy's free throw shooting is the single-most common opinion I've heard about the remaining teams -- no one trusts them in the endgame."
South
No. 10 Xavier Musketeers versus No. 15 Lehigh Mountain Hawks
Spread: Xavier minus-3.5
Selvaggio: "Lehigh is extremely well-coached and is playing with a ton of confidence. It came out thinking it could compete with Duke, and as the game wore on it knew it was better than Duke for the night. This was not your typical Duke team and should have been seeded closer to the 4-line. Beating Duke will make Sunday's line come out 2 points lower than it would have been, which is too much of an overcorrection based on one game's result.
"I have said Xavier's A-game is on par with just about anyone in the country. The problem is you never know when you are going to get it and how long it will stick around. Duke losing is about the best thing that can happen to this team. Now the Musketeers see a wide-open draw and are coming off a confidence-building win. I think we got Xavier at a rock-bottom price versus Lehigh, whose stock couldn't be higher. Xavier minus whatever is worth a bet.
Tuley: "I agree that's probably the right side, but I am leery about Xavier's inconsistency as well as being impressed with a Lehigh team I haven't seen before, so I'll pass."
West
No. 1 Michigan State Spartans versus No. 9 Saint Louis Billikens
Spread: Michigan State minus-6
Selvaggio: "It is criminal what the committee did to Saint Louis having the Billikens have to face Memphis and now Michigan State. I won my biggest bet of the tournament on Saint Louis on Friday but that was because the coaching matchup of Rick Majerus versus Josh Pastner was like stealing. Michigan State is just a better, more talented version of Saint Louis. Both are going to play a great half-court game and not make any mistakes. I won't be betting this game. These are both play-on teams for me, and it is a shame one of them has to go down."
Tuley: "As most sharps were, I was disappointed Saint Louis and Memphis were pitted against each other, but I knew pretty much that I'd be backing the winner against the Spartans. I was hoping the number would come a little higher -- and Sal said to call him back if it was closer to 8 or 9 -- but I still think there's enough value to make a play on Saint Louis.
No. 7 Florida Gators versus No. 15 Norfolk State Spartans
Spread: Florida minus-14
Selvaggio: "Everyone knows Norfolk State pulled off a monumental upset, but by the numbers it was the greatest upset in the history of the NCAA tournament, besting Santa Clara's win as a 20-point underdog in 1993. Santa Clara lost its next game out and I fully expect a blowout in this game as well. Florida is vastly underseeded and its power rating would have it closer to a 4, not a 7. The Gators have one of the most efficient offenses in the country and I don't see how a poor defense is going to be able to keep up.
"On offense, those quick shots that Norfolk State was taking against Missouri likely won't be going in, leading to a slew of fast-break points for the Gators. Florida minus whatever is worthy of a good-sized bet."
Tuley: "Sal is right that history tells us that the really big Cinderellas in the NCAA tournament are usually one-and-done, but it's still a pretty short sample and I'll take the 'dog here with the big points. Florida might be underseeded, but the Gators' goal is still just to survive and advance and I'll take my chances with either Norfolk State being in it the whole game or its starters getting a chance to get in the back door against Florida's subs. And 10-1 to win straight-up is available for those who think lightning can strike twice (though that seems very short compared with the 35-1 and 45-1 prices on them against Missouri).
Selvaggio's early leans: Kansas minus-9, Georgetown minus-4, Xavier minus-3.5, Florida minus-14
Tuley's early leans: Creighton plus-9, South Florida-Ohio under 114.5, Saint Louis plus-6, Norfolk State plus-14
By Dave Tuley/Chad Millman
ESPN INSIDER
LAS VEGAS -- While Thursday's chalk-fest was an ATM for the for March Madness tourists here in town and kept most of America smiling about how clean their brackets looked, Friday busted all of that.
No. 15 seed Norfolk State beat No. 2 Missouri 86-84 as a 21-point underdog. No. 15 seed Lehigh beat No. 2 Duke 75-70 as an 11.5-point 'dog. No. 13 seed Ohio beat No. 4 Michigan 65-60 as a 6-point 'dog. No. 12 seed South Florida beat No. 5 seed Temple 58-44 as a 3.5 point underdog. And there were smaller upsets by Saint Louis, Purdue and Xavier (note: No. 11 NC State was the betting favorite over No. 6 San Diego State).
Actually, underdogs went only 8-7-1 against the spread on Friday, but it's the upsets that resonate in the collective subconscious of college basketball fans and the games that draw the most attention on "SportsCenter."
To make sense of the madness that those upsets left us with, I placed a call late Friday night to Sal Selvaggio of Maddux Sports (madduxsports.com and on Twitter @sportspicks) to help talk me through my handicapping of Sunday's matchups.
"Thursday was filled with terrible matchups and boring games, but today [Friday] was awesome," Selvaggio said. "This is what we want March Madness to be all about, though I actually made more money on Thursday."
Let's take a look at Sunday's games:
Midwest
No. 1 North Carolina Tar Heels versus No. 8 Creighton Bluejays
Spread: North Carolina minus-9
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Selvaggio: "I bet Creighton +2 against Bama on Friday and came out of that game more impressed with how good Alabama was. That being said I have loved this Creighton team all year and I still think the Bluejays offer some value on Sunday. Teams that play in their home state have been good bets over the years but, that is the only thing keeping this from a big bet. I think Creighton will be able to score enough to keep this one close and should have much better looks at the basket compared to the Alabama game, especially if John Henson's defense is missing.
Finally, there are only five teams in the tournament field that shoot free throws worse than UNC, meaning if we get into a late-game foul-fest Creighton could possibly sneak in the back door because of that liability.
Tuley: "I'm high on Creighton myself, though my bet on them is as much against North Carolina covering this number (though the Heels did cover the 16-point spread in a 19-point win over Vermont), which I personally feel should be closer to 6, so that adds value (assuming I'm not being biased). As of this writing, Henson is listed as questionable, which helps."
No. 2 Kansas Jayhawks versus No. 10 Purdue Boilermakers
Spread: Kansas minus-8
Selvaggio: "Purdue's Matt Painter has always been a great bet off a loss, but not so much after a win. Purdue was 0-7 against teams in the Big Ten that are close to Kansas' level -- Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan State, Ohio State -- while being blown out in five of them. Both teams benefitted from poor 3-point shooting by their opponents, but Kansas' defense is light-years ahead of Purdue's.
The Boilermakers are fantastic at not turning the ball over, but they are a very poor free throw shooting team, below-average offensive rebounding team, and don't do a good job at getting to the foul line. These are all things that teams that cover games in the NCAA tournament do well. I feel these deficiencies will rear their head Sunday and against a team like Kansas really do them in. Kansas minus whatever is worth a good-sized bet.
Tuley: "I'm not going to argue with that, as Purdue's performance against top-level teams has been very poor. If this line was in double digits, I might be able to make a case for the Boilermakers covering (or at least on Kansas not winning by margin), but I'll pass.
No. 3 Georgetown Hoyas versus No. 11 North Carolina State Wolfpack
Spread: Georgetown minus-4
Tuley: I'm passing this game as well. North Carolina State is playing its best basketball now, but Georgetown is solid and this line seems short, even though it's the same as it was against No. 14 seed Belmont, though I thought that line was short, too."
Selvaggio: "This line, to me, is ridiculous. Georgetown would have been favored by 10 points a month ago and now you are laying 4. Georgetown was ultra-impressive in torching Belmont, a top-25-rated team by wiseguys, while NC State won against an over-seeded and overrated San Diego State. Good luck preparing for John Thompson III's complex offensive/defensive schemes. To prove my point about how difficult these schemes are since Thompson took over at Georgetown, here's a stat worth noting: His teams are 51-27 against the spread against nonconference teams including 7-0 ATS this season. I made this game Georgetown minus-8 and bet a ton at minus-3.5. This is the best play on the board."
No. 12 South Florida Bulls versus No. 13 Ohio Bobcats
Spread: USF minus-3
Selvaggio: "Ohio clearly outplayed John Beilein and Michigan, which is very impressive. Ohio is one of the best teams in the country at creating turnovers and defending the 3-point line, but it is just an average offensive team. As for South Florida, I have no idea how the Bulls keep winning. Yes, they defend their rear ends off, but on offense they don't get to the line, their turnover percentage is atrocious, and they can't shoot the 3. Rather than lose another bet fading them I will likely be sitting this one out."
Tuley: "I'm sitting out the side as well, but I'll jump in on the under (opened 114.5). That has the feel of a square play as obviously everyone keeps talking about how South Florida is all about defense and both teams are offensively challenged. Oddsmakers set the number low, but there's only so low they can go. It's not like they can post a 102, the combined score in USF's 58-44 win over Temple, but I believe it'll be close to that number."
East
No. 3 Florida State Seminoles versus No. 6 Cincinnati Bearcats
Spread: Florida State minus-2.5
Selvaggio: "My numbers make Florida State a 2-point favorite, which is pretty close to the line. A small coaching advantage goes to Leonard Hamilton. I don't like that FSU had to use so much energy just to win on Friday, as this can often come back to haunt you a day later. I wasn't impressed with Cincinnati either, and Texas gave the Bearcats the game more than them it. Cincinnati's poor free throw shooting will knock it out eventually and I just don't feel like trying to guess when that might be. I won't be betting this game."
Tuley: "As we talked on the phone late Friday, this line went from Florida State minus-1.5 to minus-2.5, so someone -- or more likely some group -- likes the Seminoles, but I'm passing as well. Sal's comment about Cincy's free throw shooting is the single-most common opinion I've heard about the remaining teams -- no one trusts them in the endgame."
South
No. 10 Xavier Musketeers versus No. 15 Lehigh Mountain Hawks
Spread: Xavier minus-3.5
Selvaggio: "Lehigh is extremely well-coached and is playing with a ton of confidence. It came out thinking it could compete with Duke, and as the game wore on it knew it was better than Duke for the night. This was not your typical Duke team and should have been seeded closer to the 4-line. Beating Duke will make Sunday's line come out 2 points lower than it would have been, which is too much of an overcorrection based on one game's result.
"I have said Xavier's A-game is on par with just about anyone in the country. The problem is you never know when you are going to get it and how long it will stick around. Duke losing is about the best thing that can happen to this team. Now the Musketeers see a wide-open draw and are coming off a confidence-building win. I think we got Xavier at a rock-bottom price versus Lehigh, whose stock couldn't be higher. Xavier minus whatever is worth a bet.
Tuley: "I agree that's probably the right side, but I am leery about Xavier's inconsistency as well as being impressed with a Lehigh team I haven't seen before, so I'll pass."
West
No. 1 Michigan State Spartans versus No. 9 Saint Louis Billikens
Spread: Michigan State minus-6
Selvaggio: "It is criminal what the committee did to Saint Louis having the Billikens have to face Memphis and now Michigan State. I won my biggest bet of the tournament on Saint Louis on Friday but that was because the coaching matchup of Rick Majerus versus Josh Pastner was like stealing. Michigan State is just a better, more talented version of Saint Louis. Both are going to play a great half-court game and not make any mistakes. I won't be betting this game. These are both play-on teams for me, and it is a shame one of them has to go down."
Tuley: "As most sharps were, I was disappointed Saint Louis and Memphis were pitted against each other, but I knew pretty much that I'd be backing the winner against the Spartans. I was hoping the number would come a little higher -- and Sal said to call him back if it was closer to 8 or 9 -- but I still think there's enough value to make a play on Saint Louis.
No. 7 Florida Gators versus No. 15 Norfolk State Spartans
Spread: Florida minus-14
Selvaggio: "Everyone knows Norfolk State pulled off a monumental upset, but by the numbers it was the greatest upset in the history of the NCAA tournament, besting Santa Clara's win as a 20-point underdog in 1993. Santa Clara lost its next game out and I fully expect a blowout in this game as well. Florida is vastly underseeded and its power rating would have it closer to a 4, not a 7. The Gators have one of the most efficient offenses in the country and I don't see how a poor defense is going to be able to keep up.
"On offense, those quick shots that Norfolk State was taking against Missouri likely won't be going in, leading to a slew of fast-break points for the Gators. Florida minus whatever is worthy of a good-sized bet."
Tuley: "Sal is right that history tells us that the really big Cinderellas in the NCAA tournament are usually one-and-done, but it's still a pretty short sample and I'll take the 'dog here with the big points. Florida might be underseeded, but the Gators' goal is still just to survive and advance and I'll take my chances with either Norfolk State being in it the whole game or its starters getting a chance to get in the back door against Florida's subs. And 10-1 to win straight-up is available for those who think lightning can strike twice (though that seems very short compared with the 35-1 and 45-1 prices on them against Missouri).
Selvaggio's early leans: Kansas minus-9, Georgetown minus-4, Xavier minus-3.5, Florida minus-14
Tuley's early leans: Creighton plus-9, South Florida-Ohio under 114.5, Saint Louis plus-6, Norfolk State plus-14