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where do commercial sites like ESPN/books/etc get live sports data?

what about historic data? what services offer historic sports data via an API?

where do the "trend" cappers like the guy in college foots forum who says shit like "teams playing on this day of the week who covered last game by this much and are playing a conf opponent are 45-0 lifetime" get their data? how do they perform this analysis?

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I imagine covers and statfox for basic trends..... however, I imagine ESPN has a rather large research team...
 

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Commercial networks rely heavily on the Elias Sports Bureau (especially for baseball). Not sure how the touts developed their trend data bases.
 

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ok let's kill the ESPN/commercial stuff because a little research indicates that it's expensive as motherfuck

i've narrowed me search down to two separate areas

i can pay, but not a ton. couple hundred a month max. would rather have something free obviously

1. books... what do books use for live data? i'm looking for the very simplest of operations here... basically just where to get a list of all upcoming games to put on the board, along with opening and/or current odds, and then two events: game starting (i.e. when to take a game OTB), and game ending (i.e. when to grade a wager). like say i wanted to run a very shitty book that didn't adjust lines based on its own action... basically i just need a list of games with current markets odds, along with knowing when to take them OTB and when to grade them. what's the solution here? scraping covers?

2. historical data... looking for comprehensive historical stats for NFL, MLB, NCAAF, and NBA, along with closing odds/lines. anyone have a source for this? other than, of course, scraping espn or something. again i'd like to bring up the example of the cappers/touts who do trend/spread analysis... specifically what is their data source and how do they perform the analysis? surely they're not shelling out a grizz a month or whatever for the expensive shit
2a. advanced stats... pitch/FX for baseball and whatever the floor shit is called for NBA. any info on how to access this raw data? i assume it's expensive?

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ok let's kill the ESPN/commercial stuff because a little research indicates that it's expensive as motherfuck

i've narrowed me search down to two separate areas

i can pay, but not a ton. couple hundred a month max. would rather have something free obviously

1. books... what do books use for live data? i'm looking for the very simplest of operations here... basically just where to get a list of all upcoming games to put on the board, along with opening and/or current odds, and then two events: game starting (i.e. when to take a game OTB), and game ending (i.e. when to grade a wager). like say i wanted to run a very shitty book that didn't adjust lines based on its own action... basically i just need a list of games with current markets odds, along with knowing when to take them OTB and when to grade them. what's the solution here? scraping covers?

2. historical data... looking for comprehensive historical stats for NFL, MLB, NCAAF, and NBA, along with closing odds/lines. anyone have a source for this? other than, of course, scraping espn or something. again i'd like to bring up the example of the cappers/touts who do trend/spread analysis... specifically what is their data source and how do they perform the analysis? surely they're not shelling out a grizz a month or whatever for the expensive shit
2a. advanced stats... pitch/FX for baseball and whatever the floor shit is called for NBA. any info on how to access this raw data? i assume it's expensive?

thanks

1. If you want a list of upcoming games along with opening odds, current odds and scores, you can't go wrong with SportsOptions. You can get a subscription for as low as $39 per month: https://www.sportsoptions.com/signup.php (SportsOptions also offers plenty of historical stats).

2. If you're looking for a feed of betting stats and historical data at a reasonable rate, try GetChalk.com
 

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the sportsoptions stuff is too much. looks like youre buying very fast information from individual books, possibly for arb purposes? and a pretty app on that of that. i just need an aggregate line, or even a single big book's current line, and i just need the raw data. again, simply scraping covers.com is my default solution here, but i'm pretty sure that's illegal if i were to use it in a commercial app. and in addition, it doesn't solve my problem of needing to know when games start and end... well i guess you could just scrape the daily games page of covers or whatever, but then you're getting into definitely curious behavior as you'd be checking all their pages every minute or so.

anyone?

also i think i found where people do the trend analysis: http://www.sdql.com/ . it even has its own query language, basically a customized SQL looking thing. nice google group as well http://groups.google.com/group/sportsdatabase . keep your wits about you though because of course the site appears to be run by fucking touts

any other info from anyone is very helpful as i know nothing about where to get this stuff
 

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