Hey Red Sox Fans .. How's your New Manager doing so far ??

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This is not a “Mad Men” recap, per se, just the requisite details from this week's “Signal 30” episode to help ease what may be a jarring (at least to some) comparison between fictional ad exec Pete Campbell and Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine.

Pete goes to driver's ed, where he inappropriately hits on a teenager. Meanwhile, Pete’s wife bullies Don Draper into a night in the burbs. Don saves the day by fixing the broken sink, with his shirt off. Lane Pryce woos Jaguar as a client. Pete steps in and closes the deal, with the help of hookers. Hookers lose deal after gum found in inappropriate place. Pete attempts to emasculate Lane as he delivers this news, which leads to rolling up of sleeves and a fist fight.

"I know that cooler heads should prevail, but am I the only one who wants to see this?" Roger Sterling quips to my eternal delight.


This bit of Roger Sterling genius sums up exactly how I feel about this Valentine-Kevin Youkilis brouhaha going down in Boston right now. Cooler heads should prevail, yet I cannot be the only one who wants to see Valentine get a little of that smug knocked off his face by Youkilis.


I mean, really, what kind of genius verbally challenges the professionalism and want-to of a guy who once scrapped with Manny Ramirez about effort? And does so 10 days into a season?
Valentine, of course.


Valentine has a lot of Pete Campbell in him, minus the driver's ed-class gawking and the whole hooker thing. Pete's biggest problem is not that he does bad things. The whole show is filled with adultery and smoking and relentless drinking amid the sexist, racist debauchery that dominated Don Draper’s 1960s America. What makes Pete such a thoroughly unlikeable character is his smug arrogance as he screws around on his wife, who we just learned is actually kind of charming.


Pete thinks he is Draper, and his undeserved, entitled smugness is why we cheer when Lane whips his butt, leaving him bloodied and at least momentarily bowed.
Valentine thinks he is Joe Torre, and his undeserved, entitled smugness is why Red Sox Nation booed him on Opening Day. That kind of swag has to be earned in Boston. And what has Valentine won outside of Japan?


The Red Sox job is a gift — a gift with challenges, yes, but a gift nonetheless. This is one of the top 10 coaching jobs in all of sports. This is the big stage, and Valentine was lucky to get it. There were not a lot of people saying “You know who would be perfect for this? Valentine!” when John Henry and Co. scapegoated manager Terry Francona and the supposed scourge that was fried chicken and beer. Valentine almost universally was considered an odd choice, such a big personality in such a scrutinized franchise.


Media love him because he’s candid and always good for a quote. This was why he played so well in Bristol. He drops honesty easily and worries little about offending, which plays well on TV and less well in clubhouses. He is charming and wickedly smart. He also is not at all self-aware. He believes it is all about Bobby, which is also a throwback to that "Mad Men" era and seems to mesh poorly with a still-detoxing Red Sox clubhouse.


And Valentine has done nothing to soothe fears. Less than two weeks into this season, he already has a managerial crisis on his hands, a manufactured, totally-his-fault fight with a popular player about a mostly ridiculous charge of pulling a Lamar Odom.


"I don't think he's as physically or emotionally into the game as he has been in the past for some reason," Valentine said of Youkilis in a TV interview before Boston's 13-5 victory over Tampa Bay on Sunday.


This is what Valentine does. He is always doing something to draw attention to himself. This is rarely a good idea and never, never, never a good one in Boston. The criticism is going to come anyway, and it did Monday when Valentine failed to pull his wilting starter in a timely fashion, leading to a loss and lusty boos from fans. So why invite it in early?


Of course, Valentine was apologizing by Monday morning, this coming conveniently after Dustin Pedroia torched him.


"I know he plays as hard as anybody I've ever seen in my life. I have his back and his teammates have his back,” Pedroia told reporters in Boston. “I really don’t know what Bobby’s trying to do, but that’s not the way we go about our stuff here. He’ll figure that out. The whole team is behind Youk.”


Yet, even Valentine’s apology had a smugness about it. He guessed Youkilis had not accepted his very sincere “I’m sorry.”


Valentine seemed startled his little Youkilis swipe had reached firestorm status. This was a little reminiscent of Pete Campbell, after getting his nose bloodied, butt beaten and ego bruised, going down the elevator with Don Draper complaining about how this was an office and they were supposed to be friends. Then he started to cry.


Cooler heads should prevail in Boston, but I cannot imagine I am alone in wanting to see this.
 

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Piss off BAS!

I thought he might be good for the team after the shambles last year.
I gotta say if he keeps up the shit he won't be there all season.
 

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Piss off BAS!

I thought he might be good for the team after the shambles last year.
I gotta say if he keeps up the shit he won't be there all season.

This has been his MO his managerial career. It's not going to change. I guess we'll have to watch ESPN to get the truth, because ESPN will not question the moves of One of their own.
 

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Dumb move to call out one of the Vets loved by the team and city.
 

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why he would say these things in the media rather than directly to the player's
face is beyond me. this is managing 101. for a new manager of a team to
do this, means that he is either incredibly stupid or incredibly ballsy. if this
was june and the team was underperforming, i could understand it better.
however this is mid-april two weeks into the season and valentine's red sox tenure. UFB.
 

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Yeah , i feel sorry for Red Sox fans , back to back bad apples in managers.

Hopefully Valentine is just an ass , and not a pos stiffing bum like Francona.
 

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Valentine being an ass is like Guillen saying dumb shit - blows me away when people are surprised by it.
 
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Dumb move to call out one of the Vets loved by the team and city.

Actually, Youk is not exactly a beloved team member, which makes Pedroia's having his back illustrate just how po'd some of the players are about Bobby V's remark. Of course, it's like Christmas for the local media.
 

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he does it on purpose, ownership had to know this when they hired him
in fact it had to be why they hired him
 

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I love Bobby Valentine.

It was these players who didn't give a shit last year ... they went 7-20 in September to choke away a playoff berth.

Not exactly a group of winners ...

How easy do you guys think it is to teach Calculus to a bunch of punks in reform school?????

They don't like the fact that they can't do whatever they want to ... Youkilis thought he could challenge Valentine, and Valentine called him out for being an asshole. The worst thing was that he back-tracked ... that is what irked me.

As for Youkilis ... you went 0 for 13 to start the season ... cry my a river.
 

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he does it on purpose, ownership had to know this when they hired him
in fact it had to be why they hired him

They had to hire him ... these players walked all over Terry Francoma ... and now the players don't like that the new manager has a different set of rules.
 

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Dumb move to call out one of the Vets loved by the team and city.

I don't think people really love Youkilis ... and I think he is regarded as a major know-it-all, cry-baby in the clubhouse ... at least that is what I read last year.
 

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why he would say these things in the media rather than directly to the player's
face is beyond me. this is managing 101. .

How do we know that he didn't say it to his face? The media is making that assumption.

Youkilis was out of the lineup in the third game of the season for a reason ... maybe something was said then.

NOBODY KNOWS ... yet people act like they do.
 

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Boston needs this type of manager....has become a team of prima donnas. If they don't like it, ask for a trade. RS are one of my fav. teams but have become soft bunch of bahstids.
 

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Boston needs this type of manager....has become a team of prima donnas. If they don't like it, ask for a trade. RS are one of my fav. teams but have become soft bunch of bahstids.

DEAD ON ... prima donnas indeed.

I love the Red Sox ... but I can't stand more than a few players on this team.
 

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Piss off BAS!

I thought he might be good for the team after the shambles last year.
I gotta say if he keeps up the shit he won't be there all season.

(now remember, I don't hate the Red Sox)

Crawford, hurt, big piece of the puzzle is down.
Bailey, closer, hurt.
Elsbury, all world center fielder, hurt.
Jenks, Miller, Lackey, Dice K, all hurt too.

Those injuries are not on Bobby Vee.

Maybe Bobby Vee could have phrased his comments about Youk a little better, or even said nothing in public and just sat down Youk behind closed doors, but Youk is a big boy, he should have thicker skin, and when Bobby went to apologize to him the other day, he should have took the high road and not say to Bobby, "take your apology and shove it"
These guys have had to known going in what Bobby is all about.

Now onto Dustin Pedroia, who I mention in the same breath as the second baseman in NYC, and his "that's not the way we do things here" comment.
Dustin and the rest of the clan took advantage of Francona's good nature, and abused it.
Chicken in the dugout, and beer?
Dustin, that's not the way they do it in the 'show', that's not the way you should do things in Boston too.
I understand it was Lackey and others, but Dustin, you are the unofficial team captain now, you should have said something.

Red Sox vets need to suck it up and realize that if they didn't quit on Francona the last six weeks of the season last year, and didn't abuse Francona's good nature, you'd still have your old manager, not the bi-polar opposite of him in Valentine.

I get it Youk, you are pissed off at the managers comments, but look in the mirror dude, your swing is awful, you look confused at the plate, and it does look like you are half assing it.
When you are 2 for 20, and you are half assing it, what do you expect.

Oh, while I'm at it, who the fuck do you think you are Cody Ross.
1) Calling out the umpire in public like you did yesterday is ridiculous.
2) Take the fucking bat off your shoulder and swing it next time.
3) What the fuck have you ever done in your career so far...............
 

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Valentine being an ass is like Guillen saying dumb shit - blows me away when people are surprised by it.

Bobby V may be an ass or a jerk , but he's bound to be a better person than tito the stiff.

I just dont know why the Red Sox cant hire a decent person that's also a good manager.
 
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Youkilis not this hard working beloved teammate. Whiny cry baby, lots of guys tired of his act according to insiders..

And pedroia chiming in about how 'we' do things just shows inmates still running the joint.
 

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