What's the best mike trout baseball card to get for investment purposes?

CHOPTALK · Jul 22, 2012

Have not bought a bb card since arod was a rookie.I think it's time for my next purchase.
What is the best trout card to get?
Which one will be worth the most 20 years from now?
I am totally out of the loop these days.
I want a 9.5bgs or a psa10
But which card?

DesertDevil · Jul 22, 2012

Mike Trout is a an absolute stud.

But I wouldnt touch any baseball card as an investment. That ship sailed in the early 1980's.

gtc08 · Jul 22, 2012

nobody buys baseball cards anymore

SoCal · Jul 22, 2012

you need a 1 of 1 serial card. Topps or Allen & Ginter are good choices. Gotta buy hobby boxes to take your random shot just like everybody else. If you wait for the 1 of 1 to surface on it's own, you'll have to overpay. If you buy hobby boxes looking for an ellusive 1 of 1 "hit", you have same odds of hitting the lotto. No win situation.

Here's an Allen & Ginter 1 of 10 serial auto : http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Allen-...0882206737?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item27c95f8c11

kidman232 · Jul 23, 2012

bowman chrome auto is his first rookie auto and carrys the most weight of a non gimmick auto. it will be considered his "true rc auto".

http://www.ebay.com/itm/mike-trout-...0942671643?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item4ab9ac871b

i had that card back in 2009, also had his ref /500. problem is everyone knew he was a stud, so he has alot of autos out there. i was buying those for like $40-50 bucks and moving them a few weeks later for 80-90. i should have sat on the cards longer, but sometimes you just have to take profits when you can when it comes to minor league players bc players can lose their luster fast before they hit the bigs and flame out. you really need someone to come out of nowhere to get the huge pop on rookie autos, such as tom brady, pujols, tony romo etc. these guys have like 2-3 rookie autos out there, while someone like adrian peterson might have 170 variations and brands. your just a little too late to the party, even if he wins mvp, you will still be able to buy cheaper in the off season when the next batch of call ups and new product comes out.

CHOPTALK · Jul 23, 2012

SoCal said:
you need a 1 of 1 serial card. Topps or Allen & Ginter are good choices. Gotta buy hobby boxes to take your random shot just like everybody else. If you wait for the 1 of 1 to surface on it's own, you'll have to overpay. If you buy hobby boxes looking for an ellusive 1 of 1 "hit", you have same odds of hitting the lotto. No win situation.

Here's an Allen & Ginter 1 of 10 serial auto : http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Allen-...0882206737?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item27c95f8c11

Tell me about these hobby boxes.
I have been out of the BB card business for over 15 years.
I bought ARODs most valuable card when he 1st came out, other then that I have been out of the BB card hobby since 1991.

Are hobby boxes what they use to call wax boxes?
Are you telling me that there is only one 1 of 1 mike trout in a certain set?

If this is so, how do I know that card has not been discovered yet?

This sounds like legalized gambling for minors.

CHOPTALK · Jul 23, 2012

kidman232 said:
bowman chrome auto is his first rookie auto and carrys the most weight of a non gimmick auto. it will be considered his "true rc auto".

http://www.ebay.com/itm/mike-trout-...0942671643?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item4ab9ac871b

i had that card back in 2009, also had his ref /500. problem is everyone knew he was a stud, so he has alot of autos out there. i was buying those for like $40-50 bucks and moving them a few weeks later for 80-90. i should have sat on the cards longer, but sometimes you just have to take profits when you can when it comes to minor league players bc players can lose their luster fast before they hit the bigs and flame out. you really need someone to come out of nowhere to get the huge pop on rookie autos, such as tom brady, pujols, tony romo etc. these guys have like 2-3 rookie autos out there, while someone like adrian peterson might have 170 variations and brands. your just a little too late to the party, even if he wins mvp, you will still be able to buy cheaper in the off season when the next batch of call ups and new product comes out.

What I am trying to figure out is which card is the Mike Trout standard #1 rookie card.

Kind of like the 1952 topps Mickey Mantle.

Everyone knows that is the standard mantle card.
I want to know what the equivalent MT card is.

CHOPTALK · Jul 23, 2012

What I am saying is I know there are probably 200 different Mike Trout rookie cards.

But I want to know which one is "THE" Mike Trout rookie card.

My AROD card is a good example.
There were probably 200 different kinds of AROD rookies.

But I bought the 1994 SP card which is regarded as the hobbies #1 AROD card.
At least that is what they told me back then.

DesertDevil · Jul 23, 2012

CHOPTALK said:
But I bought the 1994 SP card which is regarded as the hobbies #1 AROD card.
At least that is what they told me back then.

Just curious. How much did you pay for that ARod card back then? And how much could you sell it for today?

HacheMan · Jul 23, 2012

I would suggest a rookie autograph-insert which is numbered to a low amount probably no higher than 25.

Or something similar like Socal recommends above...

HacheMan · Jul 23, 2012

CHOPTALK said:
Tell me about these hobby boxes.
I have been out of the BB card business for over 15 years.
I bought ARODs most valuable card when he 1st came out, other then that I have been out of the BB card hobby since 1991.

Are hobby boxes what they use to call wax boxes?
Are you telling me that there is only one 1 of 1 mike trout in a certain set?

If this is so, how do I know that card has not been discovered yet?

This sounds like legalized gambling for minors.

Hobby boxes are only available to hobby/sports card dealers and normally have better and/or more limited cards in the boxes vs retail boxes in stores.

The higher prices and minimum amount of the product one is required to order now have driven lots of dealers out of being able to order directly from the companies.

There are many different products of boxes with different names which almost all have randomly inserted cards that are numbered.

For example there is one Football box out right now from Topps called Inception which has only 1 Pack in it for close to $100.

Yes some of the more limited do have some cards which are numbered only 1 of 1.

kidman232 · Jul 23, 2012

chop- the bowman chrome i linked you to is considered his true rookie card. your first autograph in bowman product is pretty much the industry standard rookie card these days. Im not saying its his most expensive card or anything, its just his true rookie auto. those 1/1 autos and other low #ed autos are nice as well, but they are inserts or variations for the most part. now is honestly like the worst time to buy his stuff unless he wins like al mvp, world series mvp, and angels win the title you can probably get his stuff cheaper this offseason when the baseball market cools and the football one picks up. you really needed to be in the market 2-3 yrs ago, invested and then waited you could have made a killing on guys like mike trout, buster posey, mike stanton etc. but for all those guys their are also people like carlos santana that do ok, but people lost interest quick and card prices fall. its almost like the stock market, you need to do your research, project to the future, and time the market

Sugarbear · Jul 23, 2012

I have a Steve Trout card you can have for a mere pittaance of what I paid for it. Bubbie Gum Stick not included.

kidman232 · Jul 23, 2012

Wildcat Coach said:
Just curious. How much did you pay for that ARod card back then? And how much could you sell it for today?

arods best rookie card is his 94 ud sp foil rookie. today they go for about 25-30 raw, with the foil design though, it was a very condition sensative set and easy to damage. so if you have a bgs 9 your looking around 150, bgs 9.5/psa 10 your in the hundreds of dollars

FairWarning · Jul 23, 2012

I would wait a year or two and buy when the Next Big Thing emerges. Also buys you time to see if he is the real deal or not.

kidman232 · Jul 23, 2012

FairWarning said:
I would wait a year or two and buy when the Next Big Thing emerges. Also buys you time to see if he is the real deal or not.

you really need to prospect early and get in on the bottom floor, you need to find a guy you think will be a stud and lock up cards early. it normally takes 2-3 years for a guy to come up to the bigs, so you can strike it rich or fuck up big time. mike montgomery from the royals was hot shit like 2-3 years ago. top 10 prospect in all of baseball, winning weekly and yearly awards. then his shoulder and elbow started bothering him and he has been sucking it up since. He is now 4-7 on the yr with an era closing on 6 and his k's are way down. his card value on bigger stuff has been cut in half if not more

FairWarning · Jul 23, 2012

kidman232 said:
you really need to prospect early and get in on the bottom floor, you need to find a guy you think will be a stud and lock up cards early. it normally takes 2-3 years for a guy to come up to the bigs, so you can strike it rich or fuck up big time. mike montgomery from the royals was hot shit like 2-3 years ago. top 10 prospect in all of baseball, winning weekly and yearly awards. then his shoulder and elbow started bothering him and he has been sucking it up since. He is now 4-7 on the yr with an era closing on 6 and his k's are way down. his card value on bigger stuff has been cut in half if not more

Or you wait and let the market settle. No sense paying thru the nose for produced scarcities when the market is hot (at release). Only fools are buying RGIII and Luck in football now. Using the football example, now would be the time to buy Tebow if you thought he would pan out. Kids will sell him, Brees, Stafford, etc to get the hottest new rookies.

Unless you have an In, you will pay high to crack boxes of Bowman hobby boxes.

kidman232 · Jul 23, 2012

FairWarning said:
Or you wait and let the market settle. No sense paying thru the nose for produced scarcities when the market is hot (at release). Only fools are buying RGIII and Luck in football now. Using the football example, now would be the time to buy Tebow if you thought he would pan out. Kids will sell him, Brees, Stafford, etc to get the hottest new rookies.

Unless you have an In, you will pay high to crack boxes of Bowman hobby boxes.

yes and no fair warning, when bowman chrome came out in 2009 you could buy the mike trout autos for $30-50 on ebay or card trading sites, as he started advancing through A ball to aa and triple a his card prices rose as he did. when i got out of the card game he was selling around $75 or so a year+ ago. so i was able to double my money at the time and was happy. now that hes in the bigs and doing so good, that same card is selling for $350. his market will in all likely settle down, but if he stays the course and finishes decent your still going to pay prob $250+ for the auto this off season or next yr. what i was saying is if you went back 2-3 yrs and loaded up you could be looking at a 1000% return right now. i do agree buying today most likely is buying at his peak unless he turns out to be one of the all time greats, but alot of value was still lost not jumping on the bandwagon until you see him on baseball tonight.

football is a different animal when it comes to cards. you dont really have to prospect as all the big names come out of the gates with huge $$$$ on their cards. every once in awhile you get guys that blow up out of nowhere, but with ncaa football being so televised, you have seen these guys play for years, so people pretty much know the studs. baseball you got guys out of hs or barely followed college world series

DesertDevil · Jul 23, 2012

kidman232 said:
arods best rookie card is his 94 ud sp foil rookie. today they go for about 25-30 raw, with the foil design though, it was a very condition sensative set and easy to damage. so if you have a bgs 9 your looking around 150, bgs 9.5/psa 10 your in the hundreds of dollars

I wouldnt know, but my guess would be that this card would have been selling for more $$ 15 years ago. If not, I wouldnt imagine that it has increased in value all that much with the collapse of baseball card market. Id be interested to hear how much Chop paid for it back then.

FairWarning · Jul 23, 2012

kidman232 said:
yes and no fair warning, when bowman chrome came out in 2009 you could buy the mike trout autos for $30-50 on ebay or card trading sites, as he started advancing through A ball to aa and triple a his card prices rose as he did. when i got out of the card game he was selling around $75 or so a year+ ago. so i was able to double my money at the time and was happy. now that hes in the bigs and doing so good, that same card is selling for $350. his market will in all likely settle down, but if he stays the course and finishes decent your still going to pay prob $250+ for the auto this off season or next yr. what i was saying is if you went back 2-3 yrs and loaded up you could be looking at a 1000% return right now. i do agree buying today most likely is buying at his peak unless he turns out to be one of the all time greats, but alot of value was still lost not jumping on the bandwagon until you see him on baseball tonight.

football is a different animal when it comes to cards. you dont really have to prospect as all the big names come out of the gates with huge $$$$ on their cards. every once in awhile you get guys that blow up out of nowhere, but with ncaa football being so televised, you have seen these guys play for years, so people pretty much know the studs. baseball you got guys out of hs or barely followed college world series

For every Trout, there are 15-20 that you lose on. At a guess, Bowman may have 3-5 good rookies that one can make money at.

Anyone investing in pitchers, just stop. You will lose your ass. I wish i had a Darvish, would flip it in a sec.

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