Some guy got 7k payout seized by the feds

KingofNicotine · Aug 20, 2012

I read it at the other place. The guy requested bank wire from heritage but the feds had discovered the processor to be a shell company that does gambling payouts. Now the guy is having to hire a lawyer and fight this thing.

I think its over for anyone in the US.

My questioin for anyone that knows about gambling laws, if the feds really wanted to could they make up some BS to send gamblers to prison?

REDEYE · Aug 20, 2012

KingofNicotine said:
I read it at the other place. The guy requested bank wire from heritage but the feds had discovered the processor to be a shell company that does gambling payouts. Now the guy is having to hire a lawyer and fight this thing.

I think its over for anyone in the US.

My questioin for anyone that knows about gambling laws, if the feds really wanted to could they make up some BS to send gamblers to prison?

it would be tough to get a jury to convict you IMO.. I would take my chances in court..

KingofNicotine · Aug 20, 2012

Funny thing is the mods over there havent addressed the thread and they deleted the original when he posted the case number and all the info.

SECplayer · Aug 20, 2012

This is probably entirely wrong but is just placing a bet even illegal? I know "bookmaking" is illegal but not sure just placing a bets illegal.

Murphy8276 · Aug 20, 2012

KingofNicotine said:
I read it at the other place. The guy requested bank wire from heritage but the feds had discovered the processor to be a shell company that does gambling payouts. Now the guy is having to hire a lawyer and fight this thing.

I think its over for anyone in the US.

My questioin for anyone that knows about gambling laws, if the feds really wanted to could they make up some BS to send gamblers to prison?

calm down chicken little

dont take wires.. dont do them for amounts like 7k.

simply put the bettor took some un-needed risks and this time they cost him.

the sportsbook 100% should repay the amount though.. good press and will have customers forget this worry kingofnicotine is having

-murph

Defying · Aug 20, 2012

All depends on how your state law reads SEC... a google search State name, gambling laws will pop it right up

VA state law read as the following....

llegal gambling" means the making, placing or receipt of any bet or wager in the Commonwealth of money or other thing of value, made in exchange for a chance to win a prize, stake or other consideration or thing of value, dependent upon the result of any game, contest or any other event the outcome of which is uncertain or a matter of chance, whether such game, contest or event occurs or is to occur inside or outside the limits of the Commonwealth.

for those wondering, (c) For Class 3 misdemeanors, a fine of not more than $500..... Penatlies go on to say that betting on horses not through VA licensed place is a Class 1 Misdemanor, much more serious.......
So basically because in VA we have "Off Track" Horse Betting Venues... its actually MORE serious to bet on a horse ??? WTF....

bigbet1234 · Aug 20, 2012

This is nothing to sneeze at in my opinion. It is becoming impossible to have hassle free transactions. You can only use MG and WU so many times. Then if you use a fake name and the clerk messes the spelling up, you could be out of your deposit.

It's to much a pain in the ass any more

KingofNicotine · Aug 20, 2012

But cant they make up charges like sending money to a known terrorist? I read a guys account of getting banned by MG for sending to a name that was a known terrorist.

bigbet1234 · Aug 20, 2012

If you are uncomfortable, just don't play. Myself, I think they can do what they want to do. I wouldn't want to be the one they set an example of. Once that happens, offshore is done, period

KingofNicotine · Aug 20, 2012

Well looks like heritage is gonna pay the guy the money. The guy's lawyer says the case is weak but they will not contest it. At least he will get his money.

vinscully · Aug 20, 2012

Good job by Heritage there.

downtown2222 · Aug 20, 2012

vinscully said:
Good job by Heritage there.

+1

REDEYE · Aug 20, 2012

bigbet1234 said:
If you are uncomfortable, just don't play. Myself, I think they can do what they want to do. I wouldn't want to be the one they set an example of. Once that happens, offshore is done, period

some shops are still sending out cashier checks.. SIA and Phoenix to name a couple, think 5dimes are too

CHOPTALK · Aug 20, 2012

hopefully it was JAG

loomis41973 · Aug 20, 2012

I love those cashiers checks!

vinscully · Aug 20, 2012

CHOPTALK said:
hopefully it was JAG

Maybe that's his excuse. Was gonna pay the 6K but the feds.....

Doug · Aug 20, 2012

bigbet1234 said:
If you are uncomfortable, just don't play. Myself, I think they can do what they want to do. I wouldn't want to be the one they set an example of. Once that happens, offshore is done, period

The end was when Matchbook left the USA behind, that was the final straw....

BillyRayValentine · Aug 20, 2012

I would like to read this..........whats the name or url of "the other place"

RenoChazz · Aug 20, 2012

I wonder if there's anything the fed can do to Nevada residence that have offshore accounts? I think I should be allowed to have an account with pinnacle, if I live in Nevada where it's legal.

BillyRayValentine · Aug 20, 2012

Its actually against the law to place a wager online with a non nevada licensed company.

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