Exbookie wants to help the players week 2

ACE-ACE · Sep 11, 2012

Investment plays 0-1 -$2200.00
Action plays 1-4 -$1650.00
Total 1-5 -$3850.00

For the last 3 years I had a friend that I thought I could share all that I knew on the NFL....Making
a grasshopper into.A sharp....that person thinks they are ready and for that I'm happy for that Person.
But...In the last year ...fighting over each pick in the Hilton even after you show the numbers that make
team A the best...that Person pick team B....GOLDEN RULE "NEVER GO AGAINST THE NUMBERS"
if you do like team B.

The person wanted to have a contest on the forum to see which of us
was the best this year and put up $5000.00....I told this person we could have this contest...but I do not want
to take $5000 from a friend!!....no answer that was 1 month ago. during the off season last year some another
friend i introduce ### to and email ### and NEVER got A email back...this person we call DAD...I'm his Grasshopper,
He knows lots in the sports world and for some reason this person did not return any email to him..I try last year
4 times asking how you are doing. NO answer!
than in week 1 in this person thread said "I just walk away"....A true friend would have told me before, after all I did
for this person and this person help me also in every way...a void now

There are thing I know about this person...I WILL NEVER TELL ANYONE.that is what a true friend would do. some
of the thing this person talk about is true...work hard to get a AUTO SHEET up with help from others. My connection
spreadsheet guy that did months of work. In 2009 winning 3rd place in the Hilton..it was me and "J" that made the picks.
This person was happy for us. I offer her a change to work at doc sports...DID NOT WANT TOO.

My wife read what this person said in week 1 thread....she said THIS PERSON toss you under the bus!!

hell even Jeff email me and said...YOUR FRIEND TOSS YOU UNDER THE BUS.

SO

Being Older I was just going to let it go....but it bug me over that last week....even Tommy B could not believe it...I had to vent!!

no matter what there is a part of me in this person. and want this person to win!!

tout business was a low blow.
how you did this with no class (just tell me you wanted out..I would have been find with that)
you are still young you will learn not to lose friends that can help you down the road.Even new friend that you got from me CUT OFF.
As alway record will tell the story....I do want you to win!!!

I do feel its best that we part ways.

sorry to this weeks thread...I had another plan to write....that will be next week

thanks for letting me vent

best to all

Ace

ACE-ACE · Sep 11, 2012

numbers for the week vs ats

home 8
away 8

dog 9
fav 7

ov 9
un 7

points that point that matter 3 out of 16 games 18%....and guess what....I was on all 3 hno: LAST WEEK

MotorCityMadman · Sep 11, 2012

It's all about the QOH. You wanted her to join the grifter's life and she did not want to join. I used to have an association with Doc's in the early 70's. I used to get my lines from him. How he has slipped from that time. He used to have a great bunch back then. One of the best was a guy called Denny. I can imagine what a bunch of people he has there now. He used to HONEST and no excuses when he lost. I remember when his big ten game was one of the most anticipated plays of the year. The book's feared that game. Today it ain't crap. I hit that game with him I think about 15 years in a row.

MotorCityMadman · Sep 11, 2012

ACE-ACE said:
numbers for the week vs ats

home 8
away 8

dog 9
fav 7

ov 9
un 7

points that point that matter 3 out of 16 games 18%....and guess what....I was on all 3 hno: LAST WEEK

I told you it was 18% not 17% like you said.

ACE-ACE · Sep 11, 2012

Motor City Madman said:
I told you it was 18% not 17% like you said.

HAHA.... season still young

ACE-ACE · Sep 11, 2012

Motor City Madman said:
It's all about the QOH. You wanted her to join the grifter's life and she did not want to join. I used to have an association with Doc's in the early 70's. I used to get my lines from him. How he has slipped from that time. He used to have a great bunch back then. One of the best was a guy called Denny. I can imagine what a bunch of people he has there now. He used to HONEST and no excuses when he lost. I remember when his big ten game was one of the most anticipated plays of the year. The book's feared that game. Today it ain't crap. I hit that game with him I think about 15 years in a row.

I been there 7 years...he has the same picture up...think he is 70 plus now.

how old are you...I have my friend I call dad...he bet NBA in the 60's...he told me his record back than was 191 -34....there was only the 5 players and the Mob knew when one was mad at the wife,sick and still played...so on ect. those was the days!

outhousetim · Sep 11, 2012

Absolutely true!

That game was a money maker, and moved the lines as much as 5-8 points upon release. Middled it twice. Ah, the good old days....

Motor City Madman said:
It's all about the QOH. You wanted her to join the grifter's life and she did not want to join. I used to have an association with Doc's in the early 70's. I used to get my lines from him. How he has slipped from that time. He used to have a great bunch back then. One of the best was a guy called Denny. I can imagine what a bunch of people he has there now. He used to HONEST and no excuses when he lost. I remember when his big ten game was one of the most anticipated plays of the year. The book's feared that game. Today it ain't crap. I hit that game with him I think about 15 years in a row.

MotorCityMadman · Sep 11, 2012

ACE-ACE said:
I been there 7 years...he has the same picture up...think he is 70 plus now.

how old are you...I have my friend I call dad...he bet NBA in the 60's...he told me his record back than was 191 -34....there was only the 5 players and the Mob knew when one was mad at the wife,sick and still played...so on ect. those was the days!

Just turned 65 this year. Back in the day their were so many sharp people out there you real had to know who to stay away from or use them for information. I probally knew some of your customers. My memory is really bad on names. I don't know your time frame in the busines. I grew up on the west side but moved east. Did you know Jimmy from Seneate's Coney Island or Big Richie Z who owned a coin shop in West Dearborn and was connected ? How about the Pal O Mar Bar near warren and wyoming or Big Moe's on Wyoming. Plenty more if I can remember their names.

ACE-ACE · Sep 12, 2012

Motor City Madman said:
Just turned 65 this year. Back in the day their were so many sharp people out there you real had to know who to stay away from or use them for information. I probally knew some of your customers. My memory is really bad on names. I don't know your time frame in the busines. I grew up on the west side but moved east. Did you know Jimmy from Seneate's Coney Island or Big Richie Z who owned a coin shop in West Dearborn and was connected ? How about the Pal O Mar Bar near warren and wyoming or Big Moe's on Wyoming. Plenty more if I can remember their names.

I knew about Jimmy from Seneate's coney....small world!!...2004 did you know about the motor city bowl TOL vs UCONN ? most conected knew!
So
why is your best sport?

MotorCityMadman · Sep 12, 2012

ACE-ACE said:
I knew about Jimmy from Seneate's coney....small world!!...2004 did you know about the motor city bowl TOL vs UCONN ? most conected knew!
So
why is your best sport?

All of the places or the people that I have talked about expect Seneate's (The Originial one was up near Livernois and Mich that's were all the action and books used to meet on Saturday morning before game time) are no longer there. The people are all dead. All my connections in 2004 no longer existed so I did not know. I really stopped betting sports in 1994 for serious money. I just got tired of the hustle and the time it takes on you. All the holidays you had to stay around for action and the phone so after 25 years of non-stop action betting, booking, playing cards, the racetrack I was retired. Now today I am nothing but a causual bettor, betting on the whim. Football used to be my best sport also CBB. At one point I was so good I personally was cut off from betting football with some books. That wasn't a problem then,because there were more bookies around then you could shake a stick at in that time period, Today I really don't give it much of a thought process.

MIKEY.1TIME · Sep 12, 2012

ACE-ACE said:
Investment plays 0-1 -$2200.00
Action plays 1-4 -$1650.00
Total 1-5 -$3850.00

For the last 3 years I had a friend that I thought I could share all that I knew on the NFL....Making
a grasshopper into.A sharp....that person thinks they are ready and for that I'm happy for that Person.
But...In the last year ...fighting over each pick in the Hilton even after you show the numbers that make
team A the best...that Person pick team B....GOLDEN RULE "NEVER GO AGAINST THE NUMBERS"
if you do like team B.

The person wanted to have a contest on the forum to see which of us
was the best this year and put up $5000.00....I told this person we could have this contest...but I do not want
to take $5000 from a friend!!....no answer that was 1 month ago. during the off season last year some another
friend i introduce ### to and email ### and NEVER got A email back...this person we call DAD...I'm his Grasshopper,
He knows lots in the sports world and for some reason this person did not return any email to him..I try last year
4 times asking how you are doing. NO answer!
than in week 1 in this person thread said "I just walk away"....A true friend would have told me before, after all I did
for this person and this person help me also in every way...a void now

There are thing I know about this person...I WILL NEVER TELL ANYONE.that is what a true friend would do. some
of the thing this person talk about is true...work hard to get a AUTO SHEET up with help from others. My connection
spreadsheet guy that did months of work. In 2009 winning 3rd place in the Hilton..it was me and "J" that made the picks.
This person was happy for us. I offer her a change to work at doc sports...DID NOT WANT TOO.

My wife read what this person said in week 1 thread....she said THIS PERSON toss you under the bus!!

hell even Jeff email me and said...YOUR FRIEND TOSS YOU UNDER THE BUS.

SO

Being Older I was just going to let it go....but it bug me over that last week....even Tommy B could not believe it...I had to vent!!

no matter what there is a part of me in this person. and want this person to win!!

tout business was a low blow.
how you did this with no class (just tell me you wanted out..I would have been find with that)
you are still young you will learn not to lose friends that can help you down the road.Even new friend that you got from me CUT OFF.
As alway record will tell the story....I do want you to win!!!

I do feel its best that we part ways.

sorry to this weeks thread...I had another plan to write....that will be next week

thanks for letting me vent

best to all

Ace

as always, there are 3 sides to every story. i have a feeling we havent heard the end of this yet....

MotorCityMadman · Sep 12, 2012

ACE-ACE said:
tout business was a low blow.
how you did this with no class (just tell me you wanted out..I would have been find with that)
you are still young you will learn not to lose friends that can help you down the road.Even new friend that you got from me CUT OFF.
As alway record will tell the story....I do want you to win!!!

I do feel its best that we part ways.

sorry to this weeks thread...I had another plan to write....that will be next week

thanks for letting me vent

best to all

Ace

Ace let me give you some advice. Take it as internet therapy 101 and no more. Nothing personal. I really don't know you personally. You could be a great person. Honest to the bone. Never cheated anyone. The person who was always there to help no matter. A true friend indeed but there is a certain stigma attached to people that sell their picks. Everyone has a idea on how the business works. The lying, records that are inflated, wrong lines, the hard sell, cold calling, high pressure phone calls, and the list goes on. If you want to play in the sandbox you have to have thicker skin. Don't worry about QOH she has a plan. I would not don't if she has a good year(I THINK SHE WILL BE A MINUS FOR THE YEAR) she will start her own service it's plane as day to me.

ACE-ACE · Sep 12, 2012

I know the bad rap sports service has....but at docsport...I made a mistake on my record 2 units more and within 12 hour they fix it...can't get away with anything in a place that been in business for over 40 years. Doc himself only cap cfb...he has others capping his other sports....most of capper on all site don't bet there only games...it's all about the picks they sell. I been told more than once...we need a game of the month....yes I know it makes sales....but.....I'm one that bets $200 a unit.....and only 1-4 units...so it's hard for me to say this is a 7 unit play...when to me it's a 4.... But out of all the cappers on the site...I'm the only one that bets full time......who do you want telling you what to bet? You know the answer.

ACE-ACE · Sep 12, 2012

hilton lines just came out

nfl week #2

*denotes home team
pro football - thursday, september 13, 2012

1 packers* nfl 5:20 pm 2 bears + 6
pro football - sunday, september 16, 2012

3 giants* 10:00 am 4 buccaneers + 7½

5 patriots* 10:00 am 6 cardinals + 13½

7 vikings 10:00 am 8 colts* + 1

9 saints 10:00 am 10 panthers* + 2½

11 bills* 10:00 am 12 chiefs + 3

13 eagles* 10:00 am 14 ravens + 2½

15 raiders 10:00 am 16 dolphins* + 2½

17 bengals* 10:00 am 18 browns + 7

19 texans 10:00 am 20 jaguars* + 7

21 cowboys 1:05 pm 22 seahawks* + 3

23 redskins 1:05 pm 24 rams* + 3

25 steelers* 1:25 pm 26 jets + 6
27 chargers* 1:25 pm 28 titans + 6
29 49ers* nbc 5:25 pm 30 lions + 6½

pro football - monday, september 17, 2012

31 falcons* espn 5:35 pm 32 broncos + 3

NBAFANATIC · Sep 13, 2012

Ace, Doc's service claims to win close to $7,000 last Sunday, were you the only losing capper at his site? No 411 play this week I see according to Doc but you have 7 plays including a 5 unit game of the week? Good luck this week, put 7 plays is pretty high IMO.

ACE-ACE · Sep 13, 2012

NBA FANATIC said:
Ace, Doc's service claims to win close to $7,000 last Sunday, were you the only losing capper at his site? No 411 play this week I see according to Doc but you have 7 plays including a 5 unit game of the week? Good luck this week, put 7 plays is pretty high IMO.

It's only 6.... One is a Bonus Play

ACE-ACE · Sep 13, 2012

$400.00*Take #102 Green Bay (-4.5) over Chicago

5 more on Sunday

Best to all

Ace

Olds24 · Sep 13, 2012

Over

Over?

Bruins4Life · Sep 14, 2012

Olds24 said:
Over?

Over...as in to win.

ACE-ACE · Sep 14, 2012

all plays set for this week...all we can do now is week on week 3...I have the lines for every game up to week 16
talking about seeing linemovement!!!!

as the weeks go on the lines adjust

week 3
NYG -2
CHI -11
BUF -3
DAL -8
NYJ -5
SF -7
NO -7
WAS -4
DET O
IND -2
PHI -5
SD -3
DEN -3
PIT -4
NE 0
GB -5

NAME A WEEK AND WHAT LINE YOU WANT TO SEE AND I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT ITS AT NOW.

BEST TO ALL

ACE