woman runs u, a border agent, down w/car : do you shoot ?

California Woman Valeria Alvarado Fatally Shot by Border Patrol Agent

By REENA NINAN | ABC News – 4 hrs ago

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  ABC News - California Woman Valeria Alvarado Fatally Shot by Border Patrol Agent (ABC News)

Authorities are investigating the fatal shooting of a 32-year-old woman in the suburban San Diego area after she allegedly hit a Border Patrol agent with her car.
Investigators said Valeria Alvarado ran down the agent with her car as border patrol agents were in a Chula Vista neighborhood to serve a felony warrant on Friday.
The agent said he had no choice but to defend himself and fired at Alvarado get her to stop the car.
Alvarado was hit by five bullets.
According to eye witnesses, the shooting left the mother of five with bullet holes in her face, arms, and chest.
"She literally ran our agent down, the agent actually was impacted, was hit by the vehicle and carried several hundred yards on the hood before fearing for his life did discharge his weapon to get the vehicle to stop," said Border Patrol Deputy Chief Rodney Scott.
Alvarado's husband, Gilbert Alvarado said he wants the shooting investigated.
"I want justice. Yes. Whoever shot my wife, that guy whoever that is, that guy needs to get shot," he said.
Alvarado's family called the killing senseless.
"Where's the evidence that my wife threatened a trained officer? You know? He's a trained officer to use lethal force, shoot my wife like that and just not even call an ambulance?" said Gilbert Alvarado.
The FBI and Chula Vista Police are investigating the shooting. Officials have not released the name of the agent involved in the incident.



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I live in San Diego. This is local news. There is probably no way the agent knew she was a mother of five... and I am sure the woman had a crazed look in her eyes... but... shooting her ? Looks like he got hit hard enough to break the windshield and he was still on the hood while she kept driving. I am sure it was a frightening situation for the agent... but shooting her?? It\s hard to say how one might react in a situation like that - but I have this gnawing feeling that the agent over-reacted. The husband's statement is ridiculous... "Where's the evidence that my wife threatened a trained officer?" She obviously threatened him by running him down. Something just seems wrong in this though.

Id shoot her if she was trying to run me over.Her car is considered a weapon.

I don't think the agent has anything to worry about legally speaking. Moral dilemma here. A video would certainly help.. knowing how fast the car was going while he was on the hood, etc..

In the world I grew up in, which I still like to believe I am at least still a part time member of, you get shot and killed for a lot less than trying to run someone over. Whether you are a mother of five or just a plain old bad mutha is irrelevent.

I count 10 bullet holes. 5 hit her - including in the face. I guess my dilemma here is whether or not the agent was fearing for his life... OR ... he suddenly had a legal reason to use lethal force and he maximized it. It's impossible to judge this man's actions without knowing every detail of what happened. All we have is a quick summary and imagination. I can tell you that for me, just getting a green light to use lethal force is not a good enough reason to use it against a woman.

People who watched what happened said she never tried to run him over. That windshield damage could have been done by the bullets.

BAGIANT said:

People who watched what happened said she never tried to run him over. That windshield damage could have been done by the bullets.

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The article I quoted, from ABC news, is stating he was carried on the hood for several hundred yards. It looks like the windshield is caved in to me, like when a body crashes into it. The agent was in the neighborhood to serve a felony warrant. Those witnesses might have an agenda.. like "fight the power" regardless of the truth. Especially if one of their neighbors, a mother of five, was just killed. I have to watch the local news after the second round of games today.... I am just watching football for now.

I'd shoot given what I know of the case.

:machinegu

Good shooting.

Don"t know many people who would've not shot at someone who is trying to kill them.

I'd also shot the husband for being a loudmouth, but thats me, I've got issues.

hno:

here's your driver, "not wanted by law enforcement authorities and was a U.S. citizen". I have not drawn any conclusions... but something ---- possibly ---- seems rotten in Denmark. FYI... I had not seen this photo of the driver when I made the original post. Something is just rubbing me wrong here.

SAN DIEGO (CNS) - An autopsy was pending Saturday on a mother of five shot to death by a Border Patrol agent in Chula Vista.
Valeria "Monique" Alvarado, 32, who grew up in the area and lived in Southcrest, allegedly ran into a Border Patrol agent with her car and was fatally shot through the windshield about 1 p.m. Friday on Moss Street near Oaklawn Avenue, according to federal agents, Chula Vista police and broadcast reports.
Border Patrol Deputy Chief Rodney Scott said the agent was in the area to serve a warrant. He apparently was not in uniform.
The agent was carried several hundred yards on the hood of the Honda Alvarado was driving, then he opened fire, "fearing for his life," Scott said.
Alvarado family members told the U-T San Diego the woman had five children, 3-17 years old.
"Where's the evidence my wife threatened a trained officer?" asked her husband, Gilbert Alvarado.
"I want justice," he told the newspaper."They said they didn't know what had brought her to that neighborhood." Chula Vista police told the U-T the Honda was going west closer to Broadway when the agent was struck.
Hector Salazar, who lives nearby, told the U-T he was standing at his mailbox when he heard a man yell, "Stop!" He said he saw a man on the hood of a two-door car, aiming a gun at the windshield. He said heard five shots.
Eduardo Comacho, 22, said he was walking on Woodlawn Avenue with a friend. He told the U-T they heard about seven shots. He said he saw a man in a red shirt, without a badge, holding his gun. He appeared shaken. Other undercover officers joined him, pulling out their badges as they walked.
"The lady was hanging out the door, barely moving," Comacho said. The agents checked her pulse, and medics who arrived shortly after began CPR on her on the ground. Comacho could see what appeared to be bullet wounds in her chest, shoulder, arm and leg.
"He did not miss," Comacho told the newspaper.
Ayanna Evans, 19, who lives in a nearby apartment building, said she never saw the agent on the car. She said she happened to look out the window and saw the Honda backing up slowly, and a man in a red shirt walking toward the car.
"Then I heard, `Pop, pop, pop,'" she told the U-T.
Another resident of the same building, Prince Watson, told the newspaper he also saw the Honda going backward, with no one on it.
"She wasn't speeding or driving erratic at all. I heard the agent say, 'Stop.' He was in the street and started shooting and walking toward the car," Watson told the U-T.
Border Patrol agents would not say who they were looking to arrest when the shooting happened.
Christian Ramirez of the Southern Border Community Coalition to the U-T the shooting was "troubling," in part because Alvarado was not wanted by law enforcement authorities and was a U.S. citizen.
The U.S. Inspector General's Office will review the investigation being done by Border Patrol agents and Chula Vista police.

THIS IS AN UPDATED STORY. For the original story, read below.
CHULA VISTA (CNS/CBS8) - Some eyewitnesses to a shooting Friday by a plainclothes Border Patrol agent, who claims he was forced to open fire on a woman behind the wheel of her car, are contradicting the federal officials' version of events.
Border Patrol authorities said that the woman rammed a U.S. Border Patrol agent with a car Friday on a residential South Bay road, hurling him onto the hood of the vehicle and prompting him to fatally shoot her through the windshield in self-defense, authorities reported.
The lawman was in southwestern Chula Vista with other undercover personnel to serve a felony arrest warrant when the dark-green Honda Accord struck him in the 600 block of Moss Street about 1 p.m., according to police and federal officials.
"The agent ... was hit by the vehicle and carried several hundred yards on the hood before, fearing for his life, (he) did discharge his weapon to get the vehicle to stop," Border Patrol Deputy Chief Rodney Scott told reporters.
Area residents described hearing six to eight shots ring out. The woman, identified by her family as 32-year-old Valeria Munique Alvarado, died at the scene.
Some eyewitnesses to the incident have contradicted the Border Patrol's account of the shooting.
"The officer never got struck by the vehicle," said Prince Watson, who told News 8 he saw the encounter. "The vehicle was actually moving in reverse."
Alvarado's family members say they are demanding answers.
"I want justice!" shouted Alvarado's husband, Gilbert Alvarado. "Whoever shot my wife... he needs to get shot. He needs to get justice served."
Medics took the agent to a hospital. Scott said he did not know the extent of his injuries. "But he was impacted by a vehicle pretty hard," the spokesman added.
Alvarado was not the subject of the warrant, Scott told news crews. That suspect remained at large in the late afternoon, he said.
Area resident Hector Salazar told NBC 7 San Diego he was reading his mail in his home when the deadly shooting occurred a short distance away.
"I just saw an agent with a gun walking toward the car and yelling," he said. "But the person inside didn't respond."
The Chula Vista Police Department was investigating the case in conjunction with the Border Patrol and U.S. Inspector General's Office, CVPD Lt. Lon Turner said.

BAGIANT said:

People who watched what happened said she never tried to run him over. That windshield damage could have been done by the bullets.

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The way I interpret the new eye witness info is that she hit this guy, he slammed into the windshield, ended up in the street. Some of the new witnesses looked out their windows and witnessed the car slowly moving backwards and the agent standing after being hit and walking towards the car with gun drawn. The question is whether he fired bullets while on the hood or AFTER he was off the hood and the car was moving backwards. this should be easy enough for forensics to determine.

BAGIANT said:

People who watched what happened said she never tried to run him over. That windshield damage could have been done by the bullets.

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That damage is not from bullets being fired into it.

looks like an (__*__) dent in the windshield then bullets fired through it.....as if the agent WAS on the car then got off and fired.

more info will come.

If she was trying to run her down .... All I have to say is damn good shooting. :toast:

Holding on for a couple of hundred yards would seem difficult unless the car was going quite slow.

all hear say

facts come out in time. It will be evident if the broad was shot from 2 feet away or 20 feet and other pertinent stuff.

The agent could have gotten removed from the car hood and snapped and unloaded the weapon, or it could be as described. The bullet holes look pretty tightly spaced to me, like done not while on the car's hood.

Why was this woman even involved ?

Let the facts emerge....they will

she probably thought she was getting car jacked, the guy was undercover. The more dead pigs the better, they are a huge burden to USA with their out of control pensions. The immigration people need to go after the Chinese illegals instead of just the Mexicans.

So a lifeguard making 100k a year and getting a pension is OK, but not a cop ?