In regards to Sandy, Stossel made the argument today

Search

Member
Joined
May 27, 2007
Messages
39,461
Tokens
That the Federal government should not pay one cent to help victims of the hurricane. His feeling is that people should have insurance and that's what the insurance is supposed to pay for and that the states should pay the rest to fix their government-run systems etc.

Thoughts?
 

Banned
Joined
Mar 31, 2012
Messages
982
Tokens
How many people dont have insurance on their destroyed homes? If they didn't, they certainly dont deserve the govt picking up the tab.
 

Member
Joined
May 27, 2007
Messages
39,461
Tokens
How many people dont have insurance on their destroyed homes? If they didn't, they certainly dont deserve the govt picking up the tab.

Well that's the question. If you have a mortgage, you have to have insurance. I guess the only people that don't, are renters who may not have renter's insurance or people that own their homes outright and chose to let their insurance lapse.

Those people deserve what they get IMO.
 

Banned
Joined
Mar 31, 2012
Messages
982
Tokens
Well that's the question. If you have a mortgage, you have to have insurance. I guess the only people that don't, are renters who may not have renter's insurance or people that own their homes outright and chose to let their insurance lapse.

Those people deserve what they get IMO.
I have no problem with aid going to renters who lost everything, doesn't mean you insure them for everything, just a helping hand to get them back on their feet.
 

Conservatives, Patriots & Huskies return to glory
Handicapper
Joined
Sep 9, 2005
Messages
85,760
Tokens
well, most of the insurance will have been provided by the federal government

I'm thinking it's flood insurance that's picking up most of this tab

if people live near the water, don't have a mortgage and don't have insurance, they're in some deep shit

then again, most of the value of their property is really the location, so they can choose to sell and build elsewhere

I imagine there are many families out there shitting bricks right now
 

Member
Joined
May 27, 2007
Messages
39,461
Tokens
well, most of the insurance will have been provided by the federal government

I'm thinking it's flood insurance that's picking up most of this tab

if people live near the water, don't have a mortgage and don't have insurance, they're in some deep shit

then again, most of the value of their property is really the location, so they can choose to sell and build elsewhere

I imagine there are many families out there shitting bricks right now

Actually, he made the point about people living near water and understanding that point clearly and choosing to build elsewhere as well.
 

New member
Joined
Apr 18, 2011
Messages
5,056
Tokens
100% agree with this....states can have a disaster fund if they choose...and if not take personal responsibility
 

Member
Joined
May 27, 2007
Messages
39,461
Tokens
100% agree with this....states can have a disaster fund if they choose...and if not take personal responsibility

Funny thing is a lot of states will declare emergencies even if the disaster is no where close to them. We saw this with Isaac a few months ago with states declaring a state of emergency simply to be eligible for Federal money. Of course the president has the right to say "no way, you aren't in an emergency situation."
 

Oh boy!
Joined
Mar 21, 2004
Messages
38,362
Tokens
well, most of the insurance will have been provided by the federal government

I'm thinking it's flood insurance that's picking up most of this tab

if people live near the water, don't have a mortgage and don't have insurance, they're in some deep shit

then again, most of the value of their property is really the location, so they can choose to sell and build elsewhere

I imagine there are many families out there shitting bricks right now

I remember when the Red River flooded in North Dakota about 15 years ago. I wondered why we should pay to fix up people's homes that don't have flood insurance or can't get it because they live in a flood plain. If you live in a flood plain you are taking the risk.

My brother is an insurance agent and said even people with flood insurance don't get everything covered. It doesn't cover drywall and a few other things so if you get flooded you end up paying for the drywall.
 

Member
Joined
May 22, 2005
Messages
31,627
Tokens
most people dont have flood insurance, regular homeowners doesnt cover it
if you are near water where its likely to flood they wont even insure you
on the outer banks, where it gets wiped out regularly by hurricanes, they stopped insuring homes. and people still keep rebuilding
 

And if the Road Warrior says it, it must be true..
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
15,481
Tokens
I guess the only people that don't, are renters who may not have renter's insurance .

Those people deserve what they get IMO.

really ???:):)

I rent.... IMO....I should get just as much help as those insured ...this i a once in a lifetime flood
 
Joined
Oct 26, 2003
Messages
26,300
Tokens
Well that's the question. If you have a mortgage, you have to have insurance. I guess the only people that don't, are renters who may not have renter's insurance or people that own their homes outright and chose to let their insurance lapse.

Those people deserve what they get IMO.


Nobody deseres death and destruction....
 

New member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
1,029
Tokens
[Those people deserve what they get IMO.....]

Just got done . . getting some family members out of there.

speechless ! :ohno:
 

Member
Joined
May 27, 2007
Messages
39,461
Tokens
Nobody deseres death and destruction....

Viejo, you know I'm not talking about death here. I'm talking about the government paying for people who aren't responsible enough to insure their belongings like the rest of the responsible people out there.
 

Member
Joined
May 27, 2007
Messages
39,461
Tokens
really ???:):)

I rent.... IMO....I should get just as much help as those insured ...this i a once in a lifetime flood

If you have renter's insurance I agree with you 100%. If you don't, you're full of shit.
 

New member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
1,029
Tokens
People that aren't insured get exactly what they deserve. Why are you speechless?

Ok .. than what is done with the displaced folks,,who lost everything ?
I can't believe in this day an age in AMERICA . . . some want to make a business out of death and destruction.

I don't know politics well . . but I ASSUME this is a republican point-of-view.
Everything isn't a business / Everything isn't about profits / Everything is / should be about Humanity !

I have no problem with the educated and corporations making all the money they can, they should / but NEVER at the expense of a decent AMERICAN left behind, so someone can just fatten their wallet.
 

New member
Joined
May 18, 2009
Messages
1,508
Tokens
Everything isn't a business / Everything isn't about profits / Everything is / should be about Humanity !
this kind of thinking will make the world a better place for everyone. thats why those self centered republican pov of your'e own your own has no chance of winning the election.
 

Member
Joined
May 27, 2007
Messages
39,461
Tokens
Ok .. than what is done with the displaced folks,,who lost everything ?
I can't believe in this day an age in AMERICA . . . some want to make a business out of death and destruction.

I don't know politics well . . but I ASSUME this is a republican point-of-view.
Everything isn't a business / Everything isn't about profits / Everything is / should be about Humanity !

I have no problem with the educated and corporations making all the money they can, they should / but NEVER at the expense of a decent AMERICAN left behind, so someone can just fatten their wallet.

It's simple guy, you have insurance and that insurance covers the cost of your lost stuff. It happens every single year during wildfire season when people not only lose their stuff, they lose their entire house.

I mean really, why else have insurance? If you own a home, you must have insurance if you have a mortgage and if you're a renter, it's your responsibility to have renter's insurance. If you own a car, you must have insurance.

It's not about business, it's about protecting yourself.

This point of view has nothing to do with politics. Isn't it just plain ole' common sense?
 

Member
Joined
May 27, 2007
Messages
39,461
Tokens
Ok .. than what is done with the displaced folks,,who lost everything ?
I can't believe in this day an age in AMERICA . . . some want to make a business out of death and destruction.

I don't know politics well . . but I ASSUME this is a republican point-of-view.
Everything isn't a business / Everything isn't about profits / Everything is / should be about Humanity !

I have no problem with the educated and corporations making all the money they can, they should / but NEVER at the expense of a decent AMERICAN left behind, so someone can just fatten their wallet.

What are you saying Big Al? Are you saying all people should be compensated for lost stuff due to a natural disaster whether they have insurance or not? I just want to understand your point.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
1,108,592
Messages
13,452,749
Members
99,426
Latest member
bodyhealthtechofficia
The RX is the sports betting industry's leading information portal for bonuses, picks, and sportsbook reviews. Find the best deals offered by a sportsbook in your state and browse our free picks section.FacebookTwitterInstagramContact Usforum@therx.com