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[h=1]Tesla Model S: 1st Car of the Year with no internal combustion engine[/h] Gasoline is so 2012. Tesla nabs the Motor Trend 2013 Car of the Year award with the all-electric Model S.

The 2013 Motor Trend Car of the Year has all the features you'd expect from a vehicle that has earned that honor. It has a light body, advanced design, a roomy cabin, and plenty of load capacity. What the Tesla Model S doesn't have is an internal combustion engine.
Motor Trend heaps praise on the Model S, saying it drives like a sports car and sashays like a supermodel working a Paris catwalk. I never thought about a car being able to sashay, but it's certainly an evocative comparison.
This all-electric supermodel starts at $58,570 and has a range of 265 miles. That's not enough for a cross-country road trip, though a new network of Supercharger fast charging stations could make it more practical for long journeys.
We've come a long way since Cadillac took home the honors for the first Motor Trend Car of the Year back in 1949. That behemoth sported a honking V8 engine and enough chrome to blot out the sun.

I just broke the news of Tesla's win to Harvey, my 2008 Prius. He took it pretty well. You might recall how Prius grabbed the Car of the Year award for 2004. In car years, that's nearly a lifetime. The gas/electric hybrid is starting to look kind of old school next to the sleek all-electric Model S.
Does this mean Motor Trend is setting aside all of its V8s and gallons of gasoline in exchange for batteries and plugs? Not really. There's still something about the throaty hum of a big engine that's hard to consign to the past. The onward march of electric-car technology is a welcome sight, but I'm not about to give up my 1956 DeSoto and her mighty Hemi. I'm just thinking a shiny new Model S in my driveway would be the perfect balance for my classic gas-guzzler.
 

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the car looks great and 265 miles isn't bad, but I'd like some kind of a gas motor or propane or something since it doesn't seem very rechargeable on a long trip.

Is it 220 volts or 110 ? Could you charge this staying at a motel ?

The earliest cars over 100 years ago were electric, before The model T Ford.


This must have a huge tax credit on it since a 40K Chevy Volt costs like 90k to produce from what I've read.

at least the range is getting better.
 

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sounds like the car is only good around Los angeles and they might sell a few hundred or a few thousand of them.




<header> Tesla announces Supercharger network

In an effort to make its Model S practical for longer trips, Tesla has begun building a network of fast chargers.
<figure> </figure> by Wayne Cunningham
<time class="datestamp"> September 25, 2012 1:32 PM PDT </time>

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Tesla is building a network of fast charging stations only usable by the Model S.
(Credit: Tesla)
In the early days of the internal combustion engine, gas stations were generally spaced a tank apart, or the distance the average car could go on a single tank. History is repeating itself with Tesla's announcement it would build a network of fast charging stations on major traffic corridors around the U.S.
The first six stations have already gone up in the California towns of Folsom, Gilroy, Harris Ranch, Tejon Ranch, Los Angeles, and Barstow. The placement seems designed to support road trips from San Francisco to Los Angeles and Lake Tahoe, and from Los Angeles to Las Vegas.
Tesla calls its new charging stations Superchargers. The 90 kilowatt output of the chargers will restore 180 miles to a Tesla Model S battery pack in about 30 minutes. These chargers are equivalent to the SAE specification for a DC Level 2 charger. The SAE is working a specification for a DC Level 3 charger that could more than double the output of Tesla's Superchargers.
Controversially, Tesla has made its Superchargers proprietary, only usable by its Model S, and of that vehicle, only those equipped with the two highest range battery packs. However, Model S owners will enjoy free charging at the Supercharger stations.
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I wonder how long these batteries work well before they start giving you a 50 mile range and cost 30k or something to replace, as well ?

just get a Honda Civic hybrid ( or similar) for now , this technology and infrastructure isn't there yet....
 

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looks very sleek.. i have never driven electric car.. im sure the ride has smoothed out over the few years... so definitely I will be in market for one some day ;)

-murph
 

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I think that's what Ashton Kutcher drives on 2.5 men ?

I guess if you're rich and live in Malibu....you can have a nice gas car as a backup in your fleet.....but there is a bit of a problem charging this thing, just yet. ! I can't see people being happy waiting 30 minutes charging time, and what about any line ?....that is hours with just a few folks ahead of you !

I presume you can charge it at home, ....might need a an electrician to put in a 220V high amp circuit to handle it
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this is 10 years away, IMO !
 

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looks very sleek.. i have never driven electric car.. im sure the ride has smoothed out over the few years... so definitely I will be in market for one some day ;)

-murph


I think it has always been smooth ?
 

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I actually think this may be something akin to an electric Corvette, and is worth a look if say even you lived outside of the free charging area and it wasn't your only car. I could see it working for a guy like derek Jeter in Fla, for example, since he surely owns at least 5 cars.

It's just not mainstream enough to be practical for most folks....gotta have a back-up gas car !
 

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I think that's what Ashton Kutcher drives on 2.5 men ?

I guess if you're rich and live in Malibu....you can have a nice gas car as a backup in your fleet.....but there is a bit of a problem charging this thing, just yet. ! I can't see people being happy waiting 30 minutes charging time, and what about any line ?....that is hours with just a few folks ahead of you !

I presume you can charge it at home, ....might need a an electrician to put in a 220V high amp circuit to handle it
?

this is 10 years away, IMO !

forgot....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car?
 

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I think that's what Ashton Kutcher drives on 2.5 men ?

I guess if you're rich and live in Malibu....you can have a nice gas car as a backup in your fleet.....but there is a bit of a problem charging this thing, just yet. ! I can't see people being happy waiting 30 minutes charging time, and what about any line ?....that is hours with just a few folks ahead of you !

I presume you can charge it at home, ....might need a an electrician to put in a 220V high amp circuit to handle it
?

this is 10 years away, IMO !

Volts and amps are very different things. Most homes are only 120v single-phase in America.
 

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Volts and amps are very different things. Most homes are only 120v single-phase in America.

Not exactly. Any house with a Electric Heat, a Dryer or an Electric Oven are set up for 220 already.
 

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Not exactly. Any house with a Electric Heat, a Dryer or an Electric Oven are set up for 220 already.

Just guesstimating but if a 90kw charger does 180 miles in 30 mins, and i cant imagine anybody who wants to sit at a gas station for 30 mins every 180 miles but i digress , a home charger using as much electricity as your electric dryer would take about 6 hours for the same charge. So depending on your driving miles your looking at the Eq of running your dryer about 18-36 hours a week.....and this SAVES energy????????? Bullshit....these things are for the very elite only....as toys.
 

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