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EV Whore
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Not sure if this falls under the HIPAA umbrella, but here is what happened long story short:

I am diabetic (non insulin dependent, treated with oral meds). Also on anxiety meds that my doctor has told me I CAN NOT go off of abruptly (xanax .5mg 3x daily).

I usually have to see my doctor every 6 months for bloodwork and general check-up. She sends me home with 3 months worth of meds and then I can call in for the other 3 months worth...every other time through this cycle I have to see the doc as it has been 6 months.

I saw the doc 4 months ago, got a bill a month later saying I owed nothing. Then got a bill another month later saying I owed $515 cause my insurance disputed the charges. I went in in person and talked to their person in charge of billing, and she said don't worry about it, it was an insurance F up and she would take care of it. Was told there would be no freeze on my ability to make appointments or get scripts, etc.

I was running out of meds a few weeks back but had just seen the doc 3 months ago, so as usual, I called and asked for a simple refill. Was told I would need to see the doctor. Told them OK make me an appt, they said I would have to pay the $515 in full before I could cause my account was frozen. Called billing with no answer for 2 days, called the nurse back and was told the only lady in their billing dept was on vacation for 2 weeks.

At this point I am out of diabetes meds and almost out of xanax. Called and offered to come in and pay in full and we could work out the details regarding insurance when billing got back. Was told OK, but they couldn't make me an appt for 3-4 weeks after I paid.

Told them to F off, got a new PCP with a first appointment tomorrow. New PCP wants medical records and old PCP is saying they refuse to release them until I pay the disputed bill in full. Keep in mind I have asked 3 times in writing in the last 3 weeks for the EOBs in question so I could investigate them myself with the aid of my plan admin. The cannot refuse the release of my medical records pending payment, correct?

I guess I didn't really make that story short, but this all seems so bullshit. I have been out of all my medication for 2 weeks due to this, it seems so medically irresponsible...plus they should by no means be able to withhold my records I don't care WHAT I owe.
 

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That seems like a total f around to get your meds , hope you get it all sorted out
 

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Not to mention essentially putting my life in danger due to a disputed bill that they agreed to take care of and never got back to me or sent me another bill after that initial conversation. Benzo withdrawal is no fucking joke, trust me, I have been through insane alcohol w/d and it is almost as bad. You risk seizures and shit from doing that...
 

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It seems like borderline medical malpractice to me to put someone on an addictive drug, continue to up their dosage over the last 4 years, and then cut it off abruptly with potentially horrific consequences without warning over a $515 bill they promised to cover and never told me otherwise...
 

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That seems like a total f around to get your meds , hope you get it all sorted out

Thanks, it will get figured out as I have an appt tomorrow with a highly recommended doctor. I am not going to f'ing sue anyone, but I am justified to be extremely angry and drag their name through the mud to everyone I meet right?

I literally bought 25 xanax off the black market to fend off the withdrawals I was having. Not to mention the diabetes...
 

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They should still send your records over to the new dr if you requested it. it doesnt have anything really to do with hippa. i bet if you just mention to the secretary that you will sue them, they will send the records over before they can get off the phone with you.
 

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They should still send your records over to the new dr if you requested it. it doesnt have anything really to do with hippa. i bet if you just mention to the secretary that you will sue them, they will send the records over before they can get off the phone with you.

Yeah, I thought there was something in HIPAA that stated they had to release relevant medical records at my request. I know it is mostly geared towards NOT sharing these records if I don't want them to, but I thought part of it related to my request for them. I am reviewing the laws now...
 

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You're nicer than I am. I would've already been on the phone with a medical malpractice attorney bulldog to see if they'd be willing to look into it. This is bullshit. If you did have a seizure and died, your family would own their practice in less than a year. I'm not a big sue-happy idiot either, but it's not as if you've got a cough that hasn't gone away in 6 hours. And it's not a $30,000 bill or something. It sounds like you've been a patient/customer for some time, likely with several thousand in paid bills. They have the option to go through the collections process, but they can't deny you care.
 

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What follow up did you do with your insurance company regarding your "bill". Def not a HIPAA isuue, as someone stated. That is basically keeping the release of info confidential.
 

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What follow up did you do with your insurance company regarding your "bill". Def not a HIPAA isuue, as someone stated. That is basically keeping the release of info confidential.

Appreciate all the input, but want someone familiar with the ins and outs of this law please, not just someone who is guessing.

What Rights Does The Privacy Rule Give Me Over My Health Information
Health Insurers and Providers who are covered entities must comply with your right to:

  • Ask to see and get a copy of your health records
 

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You're nicer than I am. I would've already been on the phone with a medical malpractice attorney bulldog to see if they'd be willing to look into it. This is bullshit. If you did have a seizure and died, your family would own their practice in less than a year. I'm not a big sue-happy idiot either, but it's not as if you've got a cough that hasn't gone away in 6 hours. And it's not a $30,000 bill or something. It sounds like you've been a patient/customer for some time, likely with several thousand in paid bills. They have the option to go through the collections process, but they can't deny you care.

ANY for-profit doctor or hospital can deny care.
 

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ANY for-profit doctor or hospital can deny care.

I should have worded it differently...I understand that they have a right to refuse, but they can't deny you care from another provider because of a billing dispute.
 

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Harry I can't be of much help unfortunately.

I had a situation similar but not the same with getting my medical records.
At the time I did a bit of research and what I found was that they had to release my medical records to me however x rays were considered their property for some reason.

This was a few years ago, but I see no reason for them to not release your records.
 
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Funny how these fucking hospitals and medical offices will take care of non us citizens, with no insurance. Hey Harry had a similar problem with insurance company, they back charged us $600 for a test that a specialist ordered and disputed, hospital put us to collections called us weekly for that cash, we just had a baby, tough times, every time we went for check up they made us feel like deadbeats, the whole waiting room full of no insurance non citizens, nurse later admitted most of the patients don't have insurance and the hospital has some fund pays for everything, all check ups and baby delivery for free while my dumb ass , who has insurance pays 3k for baby, we went to another office, pain in the ass at first , and paid that fucker off $20 per month. Hope u get it straight.
 

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They denied care (within their rights but very irresponsible given the situation)...but now they cannot withhold medical records due to a disputed payment. I am not looking for a payout here, just total bullshit on their part as they are trying to force me into paying a BS bill by withholding everything. Plan to get their demand for payment in exchange for record release in writing and go from there. Luckily still have a lawyer on retainer from my recent divorce. :)
 

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Another reason for OC......

Hippa is a pre-xisting issue

Broken arm no Insurance doctor re-set I paid $1000 CASH same problem for another with Insurance doctor billed Insurance Co. $2000
 

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Yes you get a discount if no insurance...doesn't apply here. Always been insured since I was 18 with no pre-existing issues prior to coverage.
 

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i work in the industry.
they cannot refuse to release your records. they should have a Health Information Management department who handles Release of Information.

usually it is free for patients, but they may charge. either way they cannot refuse to release.
go in, sign a form, they will print it out/make copies and get it to you.
 

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i work in the industry.
they cannot refuse to release your records. they should have a Health Information Management department who handles Release of Information.

usually it is free for patients, but they may charge. either way they cannot refuse to release.
go in, sign a form, they will print it out/make copies and get it to you.

Here's what I was looking for. Of course they can/will charge, especially given the heated conversations we have had over the last few weeks. But them requiring the $515 back-payment in order to release is illegal, no?
 

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