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I love it when the heat lose too.

Lebron James is a true coward for having to join with two superstars to get a ring.

Kobe, Jordan, Magic, Bird, didn't do that. That is why imo he can never be mentioned in the same sentence as those all time greats
 

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I love it when the heat lose too.

Lebron James is a true coward for having to join with two superstars to get a ring.

Kobe, Jordan, Magic, Bird, didn't do that. That is why imo he can never be mentioned in the same sentence as those all time greats

In all fairness, Kobe, Jordan, Magic and Bird didn't have a choice either.
 

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I love it when the heat lose too.

Lebron James is a true coward for having to join with two superstars to get a ring.

Kobe, Jordan, Magic, Bird, didn't do that. That is why imo he can never be mentioned in the same sentence as those all time greats

you are joking right? james had a bunch of high schoolers with him in cleveland and still took them to the finals. all the guys you mentioned had other hall of famers on their teams as well.
 

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you are joking right? james had a bunch of high schoolers with him in cleveland and still took them to the finals. all the guys you mentioned had other hall of famers on their teams as well.

I hate Lebron and hate what he did as well but comparing him to Kobe, Jordan, Bird and Magic isn't fair.
 

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I have to ask how kobe being with shaq wasnt close to the same thing?

and pippen was awfully stellar with jordan..

magic with kareem abdul jabar.. ummm. :)

-murph
 

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In all fairness, Kobe, Jordan, Magic and Bird didn't have a choice either.


With these guys mentality, there's no way they would have wanted another star with them. Kobe wanted shaq gone so he could win a championship on his own just to prove that he can. Also, Jordan and others have come out and said they would have never wanted to play with another superstar.
 

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I have to ask how kobe being with shaq wasnt close to the same thing?

and pippen was awfully stellar with jordan..

-murph

Kobe wanted shaq gone. Then he went out and won championship without him. I agree that pippen was the man and totally underrated.

But I could never imagine Michael Jordan wanting to join with other superstars. He wanted to be the man when the game counted. Lebron normally even defers to d wade on last second shots. No way Jordan ever does that
 

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With these guys mentality, there's no way they would have wanted another star with them. Kobe wanted shaq gone so he could win a championship on his own just to prove that he can. Also, Jordan and others have come out and said they would have never wanted to play with another superstar.

Are you saying these superstars looking back wouldn't have wanted to have played with guys like Shaq, Pippen, McHale and Jabbar so they could win NBA Titles?
 

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Kobe with Shaq isn't the same thing as what?

Kobe wanted shaq gone. Then he went out and won championship without him. I agree that pippen was the man and totally underrated.

But I could never imagine Michael Jordan wanting to join with other superstars. He wanted to be the man when the game counted. Lebron normally even defers to d wade on last second shots. No way Jordan ever does that
just saying that shaq and kobe had multi rings together.. u could argue that neither would have won multiples without the other.. but they both parted ways and won at least one after that. but its still the same.. it takes multiple help and superstars to win titles.. anyone can try without another goto guy but it is very far fetched unless u have an entire team effort like spurs or boston.. but even then u would have to ask urself are those Not groupings of stars too?

basically every title is won the same way (if multiples).. no way a team of nobodies runs table multiple times over... in doing so they would have become somebodies.. lol

just thinking outloud here.. i personally like lebron and i am from ohio.. didnt like Cleveland but liked him.. glad he left.. wish it wasnt a tv special.. but whatever bout that part :D

-murph
 

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just saying that shaq and kobe had multi rings together.. u could argue that neither would have won multiples without the other.. but they both parted ways and won at least one after that. but its still the same.. it takes multiple help and superstars to win titles.. anyone can try without another goto guy but it is very far fetched unless u have an entire team effort like spurs or boston.. but even then u would have to ask urself are those Not groupings of stars too?

basically every title is won the same way (if multiples).. no way a team of nobodies runs table multiple times over... in doing so they would have become somebodies.. lol

just thinking outloud here.. i personally like lebron and i am from ohio.. didnt like Cleveland but liked him.. glad he left.. wish it wasnt a tv special.. but whatever bout that part :D

-murph

I respect your opinion murph, but I won't ever agree with it on this one lol. I feel very strongly on the subject of Lebron James. Possibly the greatest talent of all time with one of the worst ever mentalities. But that's just my opinion. I guess we will just agree to disagree on this one.
 

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I respect your opinion murph, but I won't ever agree with it on this one lol. I feel very strongly on the subject of Lebron James. Possibly the greatest talent of all time with one of the worst ever mentalities. But that's just my opinion. I guess we will just agree to disagree on this one.

I respect that too bud :toast: ...as its all just based on opinion from either of us or anyone else

thx :)

-murph
 

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He didn't say he wouldn't have wanted to play with Pippen or Shaq etc. He said in that article he wouldn't have done what Lebron did which is leave a team to join superstars.

Being drafted with the Bulls and playing with superstars on the Bulls is very different than leaving for free agency in an effort to build a dream team. Very different things altogether.
 

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He didn't say he wouldn't have wanted to play with Pippen or Shaq etc. He said in that article he wouldn't have done what Lebron did which is leave a team to join superstars.

Being drafted with the Bulls and playing with superstars on the Bulls is very different than leaving for free agency in an effort to build a dream team. Very different things altogether.

that's the exact point i'm trying to make. That's it.
 

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Big regular season loss for the Heat. A lot of meaning to this one, how will they recover?
 

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In the last 33 years, 32 teams have won the NBA title with 2 HOFs. Yes, Gasol will make the HOF. You need great players with you to win.

You think Magic and Larry were winning with shit teams?
 

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