Pacquiao vs Marquez IV - Saturday 12/8/12 - 11:30 p.m EST

Who or what do you like?

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Odds Courtesy Of 5Dimes

Marquez: +205
Pacquiao: -245

Will Go 10.5 Rounds: -255
Won't Go 10.5 Rounds: +215

Marquez By Decision: +385
Marquez By KO: +750
Paquiao By Decision: +123
Paquiao By KO: +274
Draw: +1800
No Draw: -2800

Dont you mean No Draw -2800?

charliebrown said:

Dont you mean No Draw -2800?

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Thank you!

hope u dont mind if I add some Live feeds to here tomorrow OMT?

-murph

Murphy8276 said:

hope u dont mind if I add some Live feeds to here tomorrow OMT?

-murph

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Please do! I'd like to see this thread become the Official In Game Fight Thread!

oldmanTED said:

Please do! I'd like to see this thread become the Official In Game Fight Thread!

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sweet I will post them to the first post when I find some tomorrow :toast:

I already put one up

-murph

Marquez won the last 2 in my eyes.

oldmanTED said:

Please do! I'd like to see this thread become the Official In Game Fight Thread!

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already found 4 links and added them to post 1 puff_>>

I am sure many more backups I can get by tomorrow night!

-murph

Im putting a small bet on Marquez. And even though the juice is high I think OVER 10.5 rounds is a good bet

Murphy8276 said:

already found 4 links and added them to post 1 puff_>>

I am sure many more backups I can get by tomorrow night!

-murph

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You the man Murph! thx

Mr_Mark said:

Im putting a small bet on Marquez. And even though the juice is high I think OVER 10.5 rounds is a good bet

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Yeah, I actually will just be on Marq by Dec on this one. Good +$. It's not gonna be easy at almost 40 to move forward and throw more punches than he has in the first 3, but I believe Marquez knows that he doesn't have many big shots left and this will be a big door closing. Given that anything can happen in these decisions and that I don't see either guy getting finished, +385 is good enough to take a chance on.

Murphy8276 said:

already found 4 links and added them to post 1 puff_>>

I am sure many more backups I can get by tomorrow night!

-murph

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Thanks Murphy. When the UFC on Fox is over I can now watch the Pacman fight live!

I hope the dogs will be barking!

The first 3 fights have been so close, and the fact that Pacquiao is coming into this one of a loss, albeight, a highly disputed decision, is making me consider that a draw is a real possibility in this one. Their last fight was extremely close. These two just match-up very well and at +1800, might be worth a long look.

Mr_Mark said:

You the man Murph! thx

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zeeman said:

Thanks Murphy. When the UFC on Fox is over I can now watch the Pacman fight live!

I hope the dogs will be barking!

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no problem guys.. glad to see it because i think everyone should get a chance to watch the fight who cant be in a bar or afford the overpriced 50$ garbage

oldmanTED said:

The first 3 fights have been so close, and the fact that Pacquiao is coming into this one of a loss, albeight, a highly disputed decision, is making me consider that a draw is a real possibility in this one. Their last fight was extremely close. These two just match-up very well and at +1800, might be worth a long look.

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u might be on to something there OMT.. i cant imagine how much crying foul there would be in that decision. lol.. anything promote battle 4

i hope pacquiao gets it done for sure this time though so we can finally (probably will never happen) see him vs mayweather

-murph

I'm not a huge boxing fan, but I do enjoy watching when I can. Been a long time since I've seen a headline fight not go the distance.

That said - Pacquiao got absolutely screwed in his last fight against Bradley by the judges. Of course there's also the controversy around the first 3 Marquez fight outcomes. One of the biggest complaints about Pacq is that he wins the early rounds then coasts to a decision. He's actually too much of a nice guy, he doesn't have the killer's mentality. I think his aim is to clear up all of these doubts with a KO in this fight. I'd go Pacq by KO for the nice payout here.

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That said - Pacquiao got absolutely screwed in his last fight against Bradley by the judges. Of course there's also the controversy around the first 3 Marquez fight outcomes. One of the biggest complaints about Pacq is that he wins the early rounds then coasts to a decision. He's actually too much of a nice guy, he doesn't have the killer's mentality. I think his aim is to clear up all of these doubts with a KO in this fight. I'd go Pacq by KO for the nice payout here.

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Most say Pacq got screwed by judges in the Bradley fight. He may have but if you watch the fight with no volume it's a lot closer than you think. Espn announcer's and judges were extremely bias towards Pacman.

zeeman said:

Most say Pacq got screwed by judges in the Bradley fight. He may have but if you watch the fight with no volume it's a lot closer than you think. Espn announcer's and judges were extremely bias towards Pacman.

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It's funny you mention that. I usually watch these fights on internet streams, which for some reason are typically from the UK or elsewhere, so not the real HBO guys. At the end of the day, I can't support this Marquez guy when I see on 24/7 he has a male masseuse and drinks his own piss. I do actually like his trainer Nacho more than Roach, guy seems like a real old school badass. I'd never guess he is 72, looks 20yrs younger.

zeeman said:

Most say Pacq got screwed by judges in the Bradley fight. He may have but if you watch the fight with no volume it's a lot closer than you think. Espn announcer's and judges were extremely bias towards Pacman.

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You are right, announcers were extremely bias toward Pacman
But compubox and just flat out punch damage was completely one sided in favor of Pacman. He did get screwed

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In the second fight, it was closer, but I clearly gave Marquez seven rounds edging out the one point victory after the big knockdown by PacMan. The third fight was the closest and most debatable, I once again gave Marquez a seven to five round victory, but most experts had it 6-6.

Marquez ability to counter PacMan and his incredible footwork has been the difference IMO and is what led to him winning all three fights, despite being screwed and handed an 0-2-1 mark. Marquez continuously cut PacMan off allowing him to hold the edge from a positional standpoint and dictate where he wants both Pacquiao and the fight to go. He has a keen ability to use PacMan’s aggression against him and punish him on the counter attack.

I did think Marquez slowed in the last fight allowing Pacquiao back in it late, which gives me some pause this go around. Pacquiao was completely screwed in his last fight, sound or not. That was one of the worst decisions I have seen, as Bradley barely won three rounds, if that. How anyone saw him winning seven is beyond me.

I’m on Marquez, but wouldn’t be the slightest bit shocked if he gets fucked again. If he slows like he did in the third matchup, he better have a comfortable lead or he will likely lose yet another close fight. A draw may be worth the long shot, as the first was a draw, the second would have been a draw save for the late knockdown and most experts had the third a draw.

GL with whatever you choose it should be another good one.