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I see BAS talking about killing it in craps, and talking about a strategy to play the odds??

What's the right betting strategy to craps?

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There's no winning strategy.

BAS and other dice players know that the money is in the Odds behind the line.
 
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It is a mathematical proven fact that no betting system or strategy will change the house edge one iota.
 

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The trick is to scout out all the tables and jump on the ones that are running hot or cold and play them accordingly.
 

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I like playing the pass line, and one or two come bets (depending on how the shooter is doing). Full odds on everything, as the odds are what can reduce the house advantage to almost nothing (I think with 3-4-5 odds, house advantage is under .1).
 
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http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/betting-systems/

Not only do bettings systems fail to beat casino games with a house advantage, they can’t even dent it. Roulette balls and dice simply have no memory. Every spin in roulette and every toss in craps is independent of all past events. In the short run you can fool yourself into thinking a betting system works, by risking a lot to win a little. However, in the long run no betting system can withstand the test of time. The longer you play, the ratio of money lost to money bet will get closer to the expectation for that game.

In the many years that run this site I have received thousands of e-mails from believers in betting systems. Their faith surpasses religious levels. However, in all things, the more ridiculous a belief is the more tenaciously it tends to be held. Gamblers have been looking for a betting system that works for hundreds of years, and yet the casinos are still standing.
[h=2]Gambler's Fallacy[/h] The biggest gambling myth is that an event that has not happened recently becomes overdue and more likely to occur. This is known as the “gambler’s fallacy.” Thousands of gamblers have devised betting systems that attempt to exploit the gambler’s fallacy by betting the opposite way of recent outcomes. For example, waiting for three reds in roulette and then betting on black. Hucksters sell “guaranteed” get-rich-quick betting systems that are ultimately based on the gambler’s fallacy. None of them work. If you don’t believe me here is what some other sources say on the topic:

A common gamblers’ fallacy called “the doctrine of the maturity of the chances” (or “Monte Carlo fallacy”) falsely assumes that each play in a game of chance is not independent of the others and that a series of outcomes of one sort should be balanced in the short run by other possibilities. A number of “systems” have been invented by gamblers based largely on this fallacy; casino operators are happy to encourage the use of such systems and to exploit any gambler’s neglect of the strict rules of probability and independent plays. — Encyclopedia Britannica (look under “gambling”)
No betting system can convert a subfair game into a profitable enterprise... — Probability and Measure (second edition, page 94) by Patrick Billingsley
The number of ‘guaranteed’ betting systems, the proliferation of myths and fallacies concerning such systems, and the countless people believing, propagating, venerating, protecting, and swearing by such systems are legion. Betting systems constitute one of the oldest delusions of gambling history. Betting systems votaries are spiritually akin to the proponents of perpetual motion machines, butting their heads against the second law of thermodynamics. — The Theory of Gambling and Statistical Logic (page 53) by Richard A. Epstein
 
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Trust me about craps. I'm a long time winner at that game. It has paid for a lot of vacations and was a secondary income for me for quit a while. You can think what you want but I know what I know. To be honest I'm not really concerned about hot or cold or streaks or whatever, my way usually wins either way.


That guy was something else. He was a leader in the animal liberation front movement, and believed that anyone who ate meat deserved to be murdered.
He also went by "realestateguru"
 

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I probably fall under the gamblers’ fallacy here but if I am at a roulette table and I see red come up 20 times in a row, then I will start to bet black. Some may say my chances are still 50/50 (minus the odds of green)
But what I am looking at is I am betting that red will NOT come up 21,22 or 23+ times in a row
 

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i'm pretty sure the best strategy is to play the don't pass and max out on don't pass back odds

don't come and back odds also
 

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i'm pretty sure the best strategy is to play the don't pass and max out on don't pass back odds

don't come and back odds also

Believe you're correct here - i'm not gonna play the don't though, unless I'm the only one at the table.
 

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Believe you're correct here - i'm not gonna play the don't though, unless I'm the only one at the table.
True- it's hard to do.
There is a reason the COME is so big and the don't come is so small. The casino wants you to bet with the shooter.




*** dealt dice for many many years...
 

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i'm pretty sure the best strategy is to play the don't pass and max out on don't pass back odds

don't come and back odds also

You will lose less money by just playing the don't line. If you survive the come out roll the odds are in your favor - sometimes heavily. It is arguably better to just let the bet ride at that point because there is nothing to gain from laying odds. Of course you will still lose in the long run - but not as quickly.
 

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100% bullshit.

Gambler's fallacy. Past results have absolutely no bearing on the behavior of the dice, none.

IDK, I win a ton on hot rollers

play small, don't chase, play the hot number and pound the hot roller, shit happens

gamblers do the opposite, they increase bets when they're losing because "they're do" and they cut back during a hot roll

I'm not saying the probability changes, I'm just saying you can change the odds of winning or not. You have to survive until that roll
 
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IDK, I win a ton on hot rollers

play small, don't chase, play the hot number and pound the hot roller, shit happens

gamblers do the opposite, they increase bets when they're losing because "they're do" and they cut back during a hot roll

I'm not saying the probability changes, I'm just saying you can change the odds of winning or not. You have to survive until that roll

Huh?
 
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taking odds on the pass line or come bet pays true odds, there is no house advantage. is this correct?
 

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