"No question, Michael was a tougher, more intimidating defender. He could break through virtually any screen and shut down almost any player with his intense, laser-focused style of defense," said Jackson, who coached Jordan to six championships and Bryant to five.
"Kobe has learned a lot from studying Michael's tricks, and we often used him as our secret weapon on defense when we needed to turn the direction of a game. In general, Kobe tends to rely more heavily on his flexibility and craftiness, but he takes a lot of gambles on defense and sometimes pays the price."
"Kobe has learned a lot from studying Michael's tricks, and we often used him as our secret weapon on defense when we needed to turn the direction of a game. In general, Kobe tends to rely more heavily on his flexibility and craftiness, but he takes a lot of gambles on defense and sometimes pays the price."
Jackson noted the "pronounced" difference in their accuracy, Jordan shooting almost 50% — an "extraordinary figure" — while Bryant had been at 45%.
"Michael was more likely to break through his attackers with power and strength, while Kobe often tries to finesse his way through mass pileups," Jackson wrote. "Michael was stronger, with bigger shoulders and a sturdier frame. He also had large hands that allowed him to control the ball better and make subtle fakes.
"Jordan was also more naturally inclined to let the game come to him and not overplay his hand, whereas Kobe tends to force the action, especially when the game isn't going his way. When his shot is off, Kobe will pound away relentlessly until his luck turns. Michael, on the other hand, would shift his attention to defense or passing or setting screens to help the team win the game."
"Michael was more likely to break through his attackers with power and strength, while Kobe often tries to finesse his way through mass pileups," Jackson wrote. "Michael was stronger, with bigger shoulders and a sturdier frame. He also had large hands that allowed him to control the ball better and make subtle fakes.
"Jordan was also more naturally inclined to let the game come to him and not overplay his hand, whereas Kobe tends to force the action, especially when the game isn't going his way. When his shot is off, Kobe will pound away relentlessly until his luck turns. Michael, on the other hand, would shift his attention to defense or passing or setting screens to help the team win the game."
"Jordan was also more naturally inclined to let the game come to him and not overplay his hand, whereas Kobe tends to force the action, especially when the game isn't going his way. When his shot is off, Kobe will pound away relentlessly until his luck turns. Michael, on the other hand, would shift his attention to defense or passing or setting screens to help the team win the game."
To me this is the most insightful part of the entire story. This has been kobe's biggest problem in his aging years.
To be fair to Kobe though, he is being compared to the greatest of all time.
To me this is the most insightful part of the entire story. This has been kobe's biggest problem in his aging years.
To be fair to Kobe though, he is being compared to the greatest of all time.
I've always said the exact same thing. Kobe was a better scorer. Jordan the better overall basketball player (and that's not even very close).
There is no right or wrong in an opinion that can't be proven unless you had a time machine, got them both in their prime, and played 1000 one on one games. Hell even then it could be subjective.
Sigh. So every stat out there shows you're wrong, I showed that to you very clearly - but you're going to stubbornly stick to being wrong?
Seriously, what an idiot.
And, there is right or wrong when scoring can and is measured OBJECTIVELY. Scoring is measured with NUMBERS Justin.
It's not subjective Justin. And, you claim you're some financial wiz?
Again zit, as I just told you the other day, I didn't call you an idiot or insult you in any way so need to throw that out at all. And no I have never claimed to be a "financial wiz". If you can post where I said that on this forum please feel free.
Any stats you post on field goal percentage etc do not prove that you are right. They simply support your opinion, which I respect. I just disagree in this case.
How about the three point game?
Kobe has made over 1600 3's compared to jordans 581. And kobe even holds the nba record for most 3's in a game at 12. That's a better developed part of Bryants game then it was Jordans.
Kobe scored 81 points in a game. Jordan never did that. That is pure scoring at it's best. I want to again say Jordan was the better overall player.
Do these prove I'm right. Of course not. But there is always evidence to support your opinion in a subjective debate like this.
JustinCruise,
The problem with your argument is the guy who coached both in their prime says MJ is better, regardless of numbers and you still can't admit it. The ability of a great leader is to acknowledge their strengths while surrounding themselves with people who do things they don't do well and admitting when they are wrong... Who do you manage? Kids at a Burger King.
You appear to have no ability to acknowledge you are wrong. While you are correct that it is yours and Zit's opinion, then should I argue that Derek Jeter is a better basketball player than MJ. Technically, it cannot be disproven.
The problem with your argument is the guy who coached both in their prime says MJ is better, regardless of numbers and you still can't admit it. The ability of a great leader is to acknowledge their strengths while surrounding themselves with people who do things they don't do well and admitting when they are wrong... Who do you manage? Kids at a Burger King.
You appear to have no ability to acknowledge you are wrong. While you are correct that it is yours and Zit's opinion, then should I argue that Derek Jeter is a better basketball player than MJ. Technically, it cannot be disproven.
I'll address everything you said.
I said repeatedly Jordan was a better player yet people continue to meld my argument into one that includes Bryant being a better overall player. I will for a final time say that Michael Jordan was a better player then Kobe bryant. I really don't feel like addressing that one again.
I said kobe was a better scorer. No where in the article does Phil Jackson contradict that. I heard him mention field goal percentage and he talks about their different offensive styles, but that's it.
On your last point - The difference between me arguing that one basketball great is a better scorer then another basketball great and you saying Jeter is a better basketball player then MJ is that mine is reasonable while the one you presented is absurd. You are "moving the goalposts" as they say by attempting to put my comparison in that same category.
On a side note. Why do so many get personal on this forum? What is stopping me from ignoring the topic at hand and going right back at you with a personal jab? Would you if you were me? If I had lashed out at you for no reason asking you if you worked at mcdonalds would you tell me to fuck myself?...... If you have a different opinion then mine feel free to express it but getting personal and adding insults contributes nothing. This would be a much better place to debate if people made their point and moved on rather then making their point and throwing in an insult.
So you aren't a financial wiz but you manage financial wiz(s) at the age of 22. :think2:
Jordan had the same percentage of 3's basically as Kobe yet when Jordan played the 3 point line was further back. I know you are not a financial wiz but if you move a shot closer, odds are you are going to make more. Even a douche like yourself can figure that one out.
Not enough? In 1987 3 pointers were shot 1 out of every 18 shots. Last year it was around 1 in 4. So again I know you can count with your fingers and toes so follow along, teams shoot the 3 more and more than when Jordan played.
Finally Donyell Marshal also made 12 3 pointers in a game so by your logic he is a better scorer or at least 3 point shooter than Jordan.
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