Now With Home-Court Advantage, The Spurs To Beat The Heat In The Series Can Be Had For +155

HacheMan · Jun 10, 2013

Not as good a bargain as offered before the series began, but still pretty good value on a team who 'stole" one and for now own home-court advantage...

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<small>San Antonio Spurs vs Miami Heat - NBA Finals - Series Price</small>
Tue 6/11	881 San Antonio Spurs (Series)	<input id="editx" name="M1_11" size="4"> +155
9:00PM	882 Miami Heat (Series)	<input id="editx" name="M2_11" size="4"> -175

Murphy8276 · Jun 10, 2013

hopefully your not recommending this bait hache puff_>>

Miami goes up 3-2 leaving san antonio

-murph

KingofNicotine · Jun 10, 2013

Let's see what happens but I can easily see Miami winning the next three. Spurs looked tired.

HacheMan · Jun 10, 2013

Murphy8276 said:
hopefully your not recommending this bait hache puff_>>

Miami goes up 3-2 leaving san antonio

-murph

No not really Murph, but no doubt there are still plenty who believed from the beginning that the Spurs would take this anyhow, and for those who did and still beleive that, this is great value once again with the Spurs swiping that 1 game away in Miami and earn home-court...

KingofNicotine · Jun 10, 2013

I didn't realize this but the Heat had that big run in the 3rd while Wade was sitting. They are saying he's hurting the team.

PatsFan1283 · Jun 10, 2013

Don't forget to mention that now with the better team that the Miami Heat can be had for -175

shdw01 · Jun 10, 2013

miami at -175 is a steal

PatsFan1283 · Jun 10, 2013

Hache Man said:
No not really Murph, but no doubt there are still plenty who believed from the beginning that the Spurs would take this anyhow, and for those who did and still beleive that, this is great value once again with the Spurs swiping that 1 game away in Miami and earn home-court...

lol what do you mean "no not really murph"

You say in the sentence of the OP that it is "pretty good value" How isn't that saying it is a good bet?

HacheMan · Jun 10, 2013

PatsFan1283 said:
lol what do you mean "no not really murph"

You say in the sentence of the OP that it is "pretty good value" How isn't that saying it is a good bet?

Didn't say it was a good "bet"... Said it was good "value" for those who believed the Spurs would win this series from the very beginning & still do.

Not complicated and I actually don't have any opinion on the series from the start because I thought the Spurs were still a mystery...

PatsFan1283 · Jun 10, 2013

Hache Man said:
Didn't say it was a good "bet"... Said it was good "value" for those who believed the Spurs would win this series from the very beginning & still do.

Not complicated and I actually don't have any opinion on the series from the start because I thought the Spurs were still a mystery...

so if you like the Spurs, it is good value? Well if you like the Spurs of course you think betting the Spurs at + money is value,.

What if you don't like the Spurs and think Miami is way better? (Murph opinion) Then it is bad value?

You say in the OP "Not as good a bargain as being offered before the series" If you think before the series was a bargain, wouldn't that mean you think the Spurs are good value?

HacheMan · Jun 10, 2013

PatsFan1283 said:
so if you like the Spurs, it is good value? Well if you like the Spurs of course you think betting the Spurs at + money is value,.

What if you don't like the Spurs and think Miami is way better? (Murph opinion) Then it is bad value?

Of course it's good value!

People who wagered the Spurs before the series began had to hope San Antonio took one of the first 2 in Miami, but it wasn't a given of course.

Now that it's happened they have to be ecstatic.

If I had the choice between taking a gamble on SA for the series at a higher payoff vs what is offered now, after they've already done what was necessary to put the series in their favor (for a while at least), then I'd take the latter.

Heat may win this series and it may all be irrelevant, but I think anyone is crazy to lay -175 on a team who has already lost Game 1 at home and home-court...

PatsFan1283 · Jun 10, 2013

Hache Man said:
Of course it's good value!

People who wagered the Spurs before the series began had to hope San Antonio took one of the first 2 in Miami, but it wasn't a given of course.

Now that it's happened they have to be exstatic.

If I had the choice between taking a gamble on SA for the series at a higher payoff vs what is offered now, after they've already done what was necessary to put the series in their favor (for a while at least), then I'd take the latter.

Heat may win this series and it may all be irrelevant, but I think anyone is crazy to lay -175 on a team who has already lost Game 1 at home and home-court...

Ok I see your point......Basically saying SA +155 right now > SA +200 5 days ago cause the split.

However how can you say you have no opinion on the series when you are saying anyone who bets Miami at -175 is crazy? This is basically you saying you think SA has a better shot to win this series than the free world thinks, I think that is what we call an opinion, lol. That is why Murph said (in his opinion) you are leading pigs to slaughter.

I'll go beyond that though, if someone really does like SA to win it all I think betting them now is kinda tough when you could've got like 6-1 before the Grizzlies series. Surely if you think they can beat Miami you would've had to like their chances vs Memph.

JoeFalls · Jun 10, 2013

van gundy stated last nite that the 2-3-2 format for the final has got to end after 2013. the spurs aren't going to win the next 3 in san antonio. their home court advantage isn't worth squat.

ginobilli is finished.

HacheMan · Jun 10, 2013

PatsFan1283 said:
Ok I see your point......Basically saying SA +155 right now > SA +200 5 days ago cause the split.

However how can you say you have no opinion on the series when you are saying anyone who bets Miami at -175 is crazy? This is basically you saying you think SA has a better shot to win this series than the free world thinks, I think that is what we call an opinion, lol. That is why Murph said (in his opinion) you are leading pigs to slaughter.

Yes you see my point now.

But about having no opinion........ I said that I didn't have an opinon BEFORE the series began because I felt the Spurs were too big of a mystery.

I do have the opinion now that this is even greater value for Spurs-Backers than previously, as we just discussed and agreed.

We all know that there were and still are plenty who firmly believe SA will win the series, thus the even better value (For those believers) which can be had now vs before...

HacheMan · Jun 10, 2013

JoeFalls said:
van gundy stated last nite that the 2-3-2 format for the final has got to end after 2013. the spurs aren't going to win the next 3 in san antonio. their home court advantage isn't worth squat.

ginobilli is finished.

Yeah I think most of us will agree with this.

But the key is SA has already proven they can win in Miami...

PatsFan1283 · Jun 10, 2013

Yeah they should fix the 2-3-2, not sure why they don't.

It is from the 80s because travel wasn't as good then and a lot of the finals matchups were cross country travelling involving the Lakers and Celtics/Sixers

shdw01 · Jun 10, 2013

now that they are pretty much on the same rest schedule, i'm thinking miami will steamroll the spurs....lebron wasn't even that good in game 2....everyone agrees spurs aren't winning 3 in a row here and many would say miami wins 2.

if they go back to miami it doesn't look good for SA, if they go back to miami with miami up 3-2, it looks very bad for the spurs.

still think -175 is a steal for a miami team that is just better than everyone else....by a lot

PatsFan1283 · Jun 10, 2013

shdw01 said:
now that they are pretty much on the same rest schedule, i'm thinking miami will steamroll the spurs....lebron wasn't even that good in game 2....everyone agrees spurs aren't winning 3 in a row here and many would say miami wins 2.

if they go back to miami it doesn't look good for SA, if they go back to miami with miami up 3-2, it looks very bad for the spurs.

still think -175 is a steal for a miami team that is just better than everyone else....by a lot

I think people underrate Miami's next gear a little, they have proven they can go to another level defensively, especially on the perimeter and while SA has Duncan they are still a pick and roll based team. If SA can't kill them inside (nothing suggests they can after 2 games) then it seems like Miami should be able to dig in and stifle them.

bigtendominator · Jun 10, 2013

Keep in mind only 2 teams have swept the middle 3 games at home. The '04 Pistons and the '12 Heat. Only the Bulls in '90 and the Pistons in '89 also swept the road games. I don't believe SAS wins out here. I also think it will be tough for them to win games 6 or even 7 at Miami.

bigtendominator · Jun 10, 2013

PatsFan1283 said:
I think people underrate Miami's next gear a little, they have proven they can go to another level defensively, especially on the perimeter and while SA has Duncan they are still a pick and roll based team. If SA can't kill them inside (nothing suggests they can after 2 games) then it seems like Miami should be able to dig in and stifle them.

This is a great point. Also, just like people are saying Miami is Lebron and the band. SAS is similar, stop Parker and SAS is packing for summer vacation. Granted that is easier said than done.