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BAS thread about which team will finish with the best record had me checking the O/Us so lets hear it...
 

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Saints of course. The return of Payton was been undervalued way too much.
 

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Saints of course. The return of Payton was been undervalued way too much.

hmm he can't play defense and that is a very good division. I got burned on them last year undervaluing the Payton thing, had them over 9.5 wins and started 0-4 that was over fast. I actually do like them some this year but their schedule isn't easy. Around 9 to 9.5 could be good value though.

I like Denver #1 just think their schedule in conference/division is a joke and they added Ball/Welker to a team that won their last 11 regular season games last year.

I like the Giants over 8.5 as well. They had a ton of injuries on both sides of the ball last year and I think somewhat of a SB hangover. Randle/Wilson going into year 2, Nicks maybe staying healthy and adding Myers at TE they've had some nice upgrades.
 

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Not going to go into great detail on my phone but much of there problems in defense was due to Payton not being there.
I feel really strong about this.
 

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Not going to go into great detail on my phone but much of there problems in defense was due to Payton not being there.
I feel really strong about this.

Wait I thought he only got suspended last year for the bounty thing?

It was from 2010-2012? Damn Goodell really did comedown hard on him
 

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Like Cincy over 8 1/2
TB over 7 1/2
NE under 11 1/2

have a few more but thise 3 standout
 

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Like Cincy over 8 1/2
TB over 7 1/2
NE under 11 1/2

have a few more but thise 3 standout

Yeah Tampa looks pretty nice on paper with their OL coming back healthy and adding Revis/Goldson. If Freeman is solid that should go over, make or break year for him.
 

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Not implying that the saints d is going to be world class. But when you have a legendary offense it don't have to be. Saints have flown over the current total the last 5 years with average defense minus last season without Payton.
 

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Not implying that the saints d is going to be world class. But when you have a legendary offense it don't have to be. Saints have flown over the current total the last 5 years with average defense minus last season without Payton.

not true.. Saints total was 10 last year, very easy under that I hit
 

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Panthers under is also extremely solid. They have done exactly nothing to improve in the offseason with many of there old veterans a year older in a very strong division
 

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not true.. Saints total was 10 last year, very easy under that I hit

What you just said does not invalidate anything I said
 

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hmm he can't play defense and that is a very good division. I got burned on them last year undervaluing the Payton thing, had them over 9.5 wins and started 0-4 that was over fast. I actually do like them some this year but their schedule isn't easy. Around 9 to 9.5 could be good value though.

I like Denver #1 just think their schedule in conference/division is a joke and they added Ball/Welker to a team that won their last 11 regular season games last year.

I like the Giants over 8.5 as well. They had a ton of injuries on both sides of the ball last year and I think somewhat of a SB hangover. Randle/Wilson going into year 2, Nicks maybe staying healthy and adding Myers at TE they've had some nice upgrades.

when I was in Vegas, I took a few season wins...

Denver Over 11.5 -110, Colts Over 8.5 and Rams Under 7.5

wanted to play NYG, but they had it at 9
 

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BTW Chop, I don't have a good feel for this team either way this year..Still think its going to be a very compeitive divison again though

Falcons week 1 should be epic.
 

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