God LSU backers just got screwed

Enfuego said:

A) The Iowa QB clearly fumbled the ball when they were on the 5. Just when think I've figured out instant replay rules, something like that happens.

B) That last play in the end zone where Iowa illegally batted the ball forward should've been a safety right? Penalty was committed in the EZ. Should've won by 9.

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Willie99 said:

I didn't see the fumble, but i was about to start a thread about the illegally batted ball. Since the penalty occurred in the end zone, I believe it is a safety

I don't think the officiating crew thought twice about it, they just ran off the field

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Willie99 said:

he declined the illegal formation, that would have required the down to be replayed

don't think you can decline a safety, but I'm not 100% certain

and if he declined a safety, I think he knows his boosters would be upset

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akphidelt said:

The ball was touched by LSU on the punt. Hit the guys hand. Iowa could have done anything they wanted at that point as the ball was illegally touched.

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Enfuego said:

How can a member of a punt team illegally touch a live ball?

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• there is "illegal touching", defined as when a player from the kicking team is the first player to touch the ball after it has been punted beyond the line of scrimmage; or

akphidelt said:

I actually thought the same thing about an hour ago but another forum member brought to my attention the rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_(gridiron_football)

• there is "illegal touching", defined as when a player from the kicking team is the first player to touch the ball after it has been punted beyond the line of scrimmage; or

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Enfuego said:

You have confused me beyond belief. A player from the kicking team is the first player to touch the ball on probably 50% of all punted balls.

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akphidelt said:

And that's called illegal touching and that's where the play is dead. That's why if it hits the kicking team, a returner can just run in there with out caring trying to grab the ball and run.

And don't get me wrong, like I said... I was just told this an hour ago because I thought the same thing you are thinking now. But it is defined as "illegal touching" and if you watching the replay the kick did hit the LSU player on the way down.

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Enfuego said:

Two things:

1) Illegal touching would imply a penalty will be called. If the kick team runs down and downs a punt, no penalty is thrown. The kick is simply downed. This illegal touching talk makes no sense to me.

2) LSU did not touch the ball first. The Iowa returner caught the ball in the air and tried to make a play.

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Enfuego said:

Two things:

1) Illegal touching would imply a penalty will be called. If the kick team runs down and downs a punt, no penalty is thrown. The kick is simply downed. This illegal touching talk makes no sense to me.

2) LSU did not touch the ball first. The Iowa returner caught the ball in the air and tried to make a play.

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akphidelt said:

And that's called illegal touching and that's where the play is dead. That's why if it hits the kicking team, a returner can just run in there with out caring trying to grab the ball and run.

And don't get me wrong, like I said... I was just told this an hour ago because I thought the same thing you are thinking now. But it is defined as "illegal touching" and if you watching the replay the kick did hit the LSU player on the way down.

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MotorMouth said:

Illegal touching never gets called UNLESS the receiving team decides to pick up the illegally touched ball AND then proceeds to muff/fumble it.

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Enfuego said:

Two things:

1) Illegal touching would imply a penalty will be called. If the kick team runs down and downs a punt, no penalty is thrown. The kick is simply downed. This illegal touching talk makes no sense to me.

2) LSU did not touch the ball first. The Iowa returner caught the ball in the air and tried to make a play.

I watched AK and I don't see where the LSU coverage guy touched the ball. As a matter of fact, if it is touched, doesn't the ref throw a beanbag down?

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Illini said:

Didn't you see it hit the LSU guy in the head? Should have been dead ball Iowa 1st down.

Who is God LSU? Never heard of that team.

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akphidelt said:

I don't know what else to tell you. If you watch the ball in the replay it clearly hits the LSU guy and bounces in the air. And the rules are clear that it is called "illegal touching".

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