Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, Frank Thomas gain Hall .... Craig Biggio just misses

Betallsports · Jan 9, 2014

[h=4]2014 Hall of Fame voting[/h]

Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine and Frank Thomas were elected to the Hall of Fame by baseball writers, reaching the needed 75 percent of the vote to gain entry to Cooperstown. Here's a look at the voting.

Player	Votes	Pct.
Greg Maddux	555	97.2
Tom Glavine	525	91.9
Frank Thomas	478	83.7
Craig Biggio	427	74.8
Mike Piazza	355	62.2
Jack Morris*	351	61.5
Jeff Bagwell*	310	54.3
Tim Raines*	263	46.1
Roger Clemens*	202	35.4
Barry Bonds*	198	34.7
Lee Smith*	171	29.9
Curt Schilling*	167	29.2
Edgar Martinez*	144	25.2
Alan Trammell*	119	20.8
Mike Mussina	116	20.3
Jeff Kent	87	15.2
Fred McGriff*	67	11.7
Mark McGwire*	63	11.0
Larry Walker*	58	10.2
Don Mattingly*	47	8.2
Sammy Sosa*	41	7.2
Rafael Palmeiro*	25	4.4
* = lost votes from previous year Others receiving votes: Moises Alou, 6; Hideo Nomo, 6; Luis Gonzalez, 5; Eric Gagne, 2; J.T. Snow, 2; Armando Benitez, 1; Jacque Jones, 1; Kenny Rogers, 1.

Fishhead · Jan 9, 2014

All three well deserving.................Biggio will make it eventually, but who knows with these voters, Dwight Evans is completely off the ballot for not receiving enough votes to remain on, which is absolutely astonishing.

Fishhead · Jan 9, 2014

3,060 hits for Biggio

Surprisingly, Frank Thomas was only a five-time ALLSTAR(Biggio seven time AS).............not that it means much in terms of the HOF, just stating.

Betallsports · Jan 9, 2014

a lot of Backlash for Maddux being left off 16 ballots

Fishhead · Jan 9, 2014

Betallsports said:
a lot of Backlash for Maddux being left off 16 ballots

Rightfully so, unreal.................guess he needed ten Cy Young Awards to be first time ballot HOF in some voters eyes.

Betallsports · Jan 9, 2014

Fishhead said:
Rightfully so, unreal.................guess he needed ten Cy Young Awards to be first time ballot HOF.

I wonder how different the Hall voting would be if Fans did the voting ??
probably too much a free for all

Fishhead · Jan 9, 2014

Some radio guy here in Vegas had or still does have a vote in the HOF(forget his name), asked him if he voted for Dwight Evans, he responded by saying no and why DARRELL didn't deserve his vote..............he rambled for 40 seconds before I said Dwight played for the Red Sox, you're confusing Darrell with Dwight, incredible, UGHHHH.

REDEYE · Jan 9, 2014

Fishhead said:
3,060 hits for Biggio

Surprisingly, Frank Thomas was only a five-time ALLSTAR(Biggio seven time AS).............not that it means much in terms of the HOF, just stating.

Thomas had way bigger impact on the game then Biggio.. Biggio is only being considered for HOF because of longivity.. Guy has never led the league in anything, been a top 5 MVP player... HOF is for great players, Biggio was not a great player... HOF isnot players that just hang around for stats..

Fishhead · Jan 9, 2014

RED EYE said:
Thomas had way bigger impact on the game then Biggio.. Biggio is only being considered for HOF because of longivity.. Guy has never led the league in anything, been a top 5 MVP player... HOF is for great players, Biggio was not a great player... HOF isnot players that just hang around for stats..

Good comments

Biggio was a helluva good player though, with some great years offensively(led league in runs twice) and defensively(four gold gloves).

doubledeuce22 · Jan 9, 2014

Dwight Evans hof lol..

doubledeuce22 · Jan 9, 2014

Betallsports said:
a lot of Backlash for Maddux being left off 16 ballots

One guy said he wouldn't vote any players from the steroid era. I don't necessarily agree, but have no problem with it.

The level of absurdity and arrogance shown by voters to now be the steroid police is a joke. For example, no way piazza didn't juice, it's common sense. But he'll likely go in before Clemens or Bonds. Can't pick and choose who to penalize.

And don't give me the 'evidence' excuse. Just look at it like this, millions dollars on the line, and you have to be right, did piazza juice or not? Not a single writer with a vote would bet no.

REDEYE · Jan 9, 2014

Fishhead said:
Good comments

Biggio was a helluva good player though, with some great years offensively(led league in runs twice) and defensively(four gold gloves).

Biggio was a very good player..no doubt... he will probably get in too...

Acebb · Jan 9, 2014

RED EYE said:
Thomas had way bigger impact on the game then Biggio.. Biggio is only being considered for HOF because of longivity.. Guy has never led the league in anything, been a top 5 MVP player... HOF is for great players, Biggio was not a great player... HOF isnot players that just hang around for stats..

Totally agree. Thomas won 2 league MVP's.

CHOPTALK · Jan 9, 2014

Biggio had a better whole career then thomas

and bagwell was also better

why does bagwell get the steroid treatment by the voters but Thomas does not?

These voters should be shot.

They are punishing bagwell because they think he looks like a guy who might have took steroids but for some reason Thomas is ok.

such bullshit

Bagwell is the best 1st baseman I have ever seen

CHOPTALK · Jan 9, 2014

Betallsports said:
a lot of Backlash for Maddux being left off 16 ballots

16 voters who should lose there voting rights

celticGreen+ · Jan 9, 2014

Sort of surprised Morris didn't end up making it - I feel like he should be in there, but I can see it both ways. Biggio is an accumulator.

Ladeda · Jan 9, 2014

doubledeuce22 said:
One guy said he wouldn't vote any players from the steroid era. I don't necessarily agree, but have no problem with it.

The level of absurdity and arrogance shown by voters to now be the steroid police is a joke. For example, no way piazza didn't juice, it's common sense. But he'll likely go in before Clemens or Bonds. Can't pick and choose who to penalize.

And don't give me the 'evidence' excuse. Just look at it like this, millions dollars on the line, and you have to be right, did piazza juice or not? Not a single writer with a vote would bet no.

Who is to say Biggio wasn't on roids ? The Astros certainly had one of the strongest steroid environments during his career in Houston (Caminiti, Bagwell, etc) Just because you have a small frame doesn't mean you aren't juicing, lots of tiny guys have been caught over the years, you don't have to be musclebound. If the same millin dollar bet was on the line with Biggio I'd probably have to bet he used PED's

REDEYE · Jan 9, 2014

CHOPTALK said:
Biggio had a better whole career then thomas

and bagwell was also better

why does bagwell get the steroid treatment by the voters but Thomas does not?

These voters should be shot.

They are punishing bagwell because they think he looks like a guy who might have took steroids but for some reason Thomas is ok.

such bullshit

Bagwell is the best 1st baseman I have ever seen

the next big hit Biggio or Bagwell get will be there first

CHOPTALK · Jan 9, 2014

RED EYE said:
the next big hit Biggio or Bagwell get will be there first

ok
do you have a list of Thomas big hits?
tia

doubledeuce22 · Jan 9, 2014

CHOPTALK said:
Biggio had a better whole career then thomas

and bagwell was also better

why does bagwell get the steroid treatment by the voters but Thomas does not?

These voters should be shot.

They are punishing bagwell because they think he looks like a guy who might have took steroids but for some reason Thomas is ok.

such bullshit

Bagwell is the best 1st baseman I have ever seen

I'm not saying bagwell did or didn't..

Some guys might look at 851 minor league plate appearances, and 6 home runs. Think about that.

Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, Frank Thomas gain Hall .... Craig Biggio just misses

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