Another Novelty Super Bowl Prop Winner

JohnnyMags · Jan 26, 2014

Here's another novelty prop that sounds pretty good. How long will it take Renee Fleming to sing the official US National Anthem? - Under 2 min 25 seconds (-140)

Obviously the juice is high but 2:25 is an eternity. If you just sing the song straight up it's about a 1:20. I found a Lady Gaga version online and she did a good job milking it and it was still only 2:15. I can't see how you could milk another 10 seconds out of it. If the singer was some attention loving performer say like a Rihanna or Niki Minaj I could see them stretching it as long as possible but this singer I would expect to be less inclined to stretch. The one caveat is she's the first opera singer so that could be slower. I hope she's just the glad to be doing it type and not want to make it so long it's ridiculous.

Maybe the powers that be will ask her to stretch it to over expecting the most money on the under. I have faith in honesty and humility and that can only mean under 2:25.

dustroy · Jan 26, 2014

this chick is an opera singer who can hold notes. I think the factor will be the weather and if she's able to sustain notes in the cold

JohnnyMags · Jan 26, 2014

I took this a step further and looked at no less than 8 performers and only Aretha Franklin got close to the 2:25 and she repeated "The Brave" at the end 3 times holding them all. As for opera singers I searched for opera singers singing the anthem and the girl doing the bowl wasn't there. There were others and I checked 4 the opera singers were ALL where under 2 minutes the longest was actually a male opera singer and singing slow in that style is rather unbearable. He still only did 1:50. After hearing the Opera singers I feel even more confident. I know it's all chance but just like we look for info on the game this is solid info on song length. If I lose at least I know it won't be a pick 6 or a stupid fumble happening unexpectedly. Remember there are shorter times that have less juice so the 2:25 is an increase over the even odds number. I know people will think I'm stupid but I'm more confident in this under than I am in the game which for me will be Seattle.

3pointdog · Jan 27, 2014

um yeah, vegas just "threw" that time out there... really..no research on their part?..... go buy beer... save your money please

JohnnyMags · Jan 27, 2014

3pointdog said:
um yeah, vegas just "threw" that time out there... really..no research on their part?..... go buy beer... save your money please

So you think my reasoning is stupid. Some guys think if it isn't a sports bet it dosen't count. Did I say they just threw this out there? I said it's generous and that's why it's (-140).
A lot of the props are obvious but the odds are too high to make it worth while. I think this is obvious and although the juice is up it isn't ridiculous

I have plenty of beer so I'll take my chances.

phantom888 · Jan 27, 2014

if she's cold, she'll shorten it up.

check out what she's wearing and if the grin on her face is because she's toasty, or colder than shit.

did she ever sing the anthem before?

Vituperate · Jan 27, 2014

I think you make some good arguments Johnny. Funny tho...I have hit the last 3 or 4 National Anthem over/unders so I do look for it as a viable bet. And it is fun and exciting to be timing the song.

I hit Christine Augliera over a few years back...but the line was around 2:08 or so I think.

But then I found this video on You Tube. It is Fleming singing "Amazing Grace" at the 9/11 memorial dedication. Wow. She is the slowest singer I have ever heard.

You should watch it. If Fleming sings the National Anthem even remotely like she sang this song...the game may never start!

Now I wonder if the books put out the high total line just to sucker the bettors to the under despite the high juice.

Fleming starts singing the song around the 1:00 minute long. Consider me scared of the under.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87BxqK7KKCc

In the meantime here are the last 10 or so SB performers. GL

XXXVIII	2004	Reliant Stadium, Houston	Beyoncé Knowles ASL performed by Suzanna Christy
XXXIX	2005	ALLTEL Stadium, Jacksonville, Florida	Combined choirs of the U.S. Military Academy, the U.S. Naval Academy, the U.S. Air Force Academy (2), and the U.S. Coast Guard Academy, and U.S. Army Herald Trumpets. ASL performed by Wesley Tallent
XL	2006	Ford Field, Detroit	Aaron Neville (2) and Aretha Franklin, Piano accompaniment by Dr. John, ASL performed by Angela LaGuardia
XLI	2007	Dolphin Stadium, Miami Gardens, Florida	Billy Joel (2) ASL performed by Marlee Matlin (2)
XLII	2008	University of Phoenix Stadium, Glendale, Arizona	Jordin Sparks ASL performed by A Dreamer (of Phoenix College)
XLIII	2009	Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, Florida	Jennifer Hudson ASL performed by Kristen Santos
XLIV	2010	Sun Life Stadium, Miami Gardens	Carrie Underwood ASL performed by Kinesha Battles
XLV	2011	Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, Texas	Christina Aguilera ASL performed by Candice Villesca[SUP][9][/SUP]
XLVI	2012	Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, Indiana	Kelly Clarkson ASL performed by Rachel Mazique[SUP][10][/SUP]
XLVII	2013	Mercedes-Benz Superdome, New Orleans, Louisiana	Alicia Keys[SUP][11][/SUP] ASL performed by John Maucere[SUP][12][/SUP]
XLVIII	2014	MetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, New Jersey	Renee Fleming ASL performed by Amber Zion

phantom888 · Jan 27, 2014

Excellent info Vit!!

Wow!

phantom888 · Jan 27, 2014

watched the you tube video.....

here's a comment someone posted in her singing of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow".....

disquand

3 years ago
Beautiful... but way to slow.... I was falling asleep! But Rene Flemming is AMAZING!!!

I think the National Anthem goes OVER 2:25.......

Something about opera singers, they really draw their words out....:howdy:

APM · Jan 28, 2014

Renee is supposed to be on the tv show called the view on tuesday the 28th maybe she will give you some more information to base your bet off of.

JohnnyMags · Jan 28, 2014

OK I get it opera singers are slow ....... but 2:25 is extra slow. If you read what I wrote above you'll see what I found in samplings. I've taken the slow thing into consideration.
I'm sure there are renditions that topped 2:25 but try to find one. If you have to look through 10 or more clips to find one doesn't that tell you 2:25 is not a usual time. I only found one. This info is like the info we get capping games. You can always find arguments pointed to the other side but when comparing over 2:25 performances to under 2:25 it's not even close. Even sampling opera singers.

As for Renee Flemming there's no You Tube of her singing the SSB. I listened to the Amazing Grace rendition but that song is suppose to be slow and singing it at a memoriam to 911 only underlines being slow out of respect. The SSB isn't a slow song so it won't be that sobering.

I've added a different opera singer actually singing the SSB. This is some slow singing, in fact painfully slow yet it's still only 2 minutes. With opera type singing I just can't imagine the producers not saying don't make the length ridiculous.

I don't think people understand how long 2:25 is. Listen to this slow OPERA singer (even the camera man loses interest at the beginning) can you imagine this lasting another 25 seconds? I'll be surprised if Renee tops 2:15 to be honest.

StevieRay · Jan 28, 2014

Took over last yr and it hit , cant remember the time over under though

JohnnyMags · Jan 28, 2014

StevieRay said:
Took over last yr and it hit , cant remember the time over under though

Who sang?
I'd be surprised if you had 2:25

phantom888 · Jan 28, 2014

Alicia Keys in 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6XM8MAXGp0

phantom888 · Jan 28, 2014

phantom888 said:
Alicia Keys in 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6XM8MAXGp0

I timed it at 2:35.

She sang it super slow.

Lots of pauses between words and she added a couple of words at the end and had a long run at the end also.

The anthem isnt good sung slow.

Can't imagine the opera singer singing it this slow.