My 3 Rants: 1) Why Do Books Treat NCAAB Totals Differently EVERY YEAR?

ScottL · Feb 15, 2014

I've been seething about this for awhile now. Is there some kind of myth that Totals are easier to beat than Sides? A few years ago we had no Totals at all in NCAAB for the first two weeks. Then they were up overnight. Then the following year they got posted at 11AM, but at least there was a Total for every game.

I think last year TOTALS came out overnight when the game prices were posted. Now this year they come out sporadically, if at all. CRIS posts them if they're "on TV" (whatever the Fuck that means in this modern age). 5Dimes has a Total on every game, but if you want a 4pm game you might have to wait until 3:45 to see a Line, IF you have an account there (If they didn't toss your credit agent out after the Superbowl)!!! Bama vs South Carolina at 4PM has No Total -- This is just lame.

What else? Added Games! Having to scroll through an entire menu through the night games to see the afternoon added games. Put them in the Fucking Rotation already or take the damn Conference off the board entirely!

Lastly, online books who take games off the board 1 second after they're scheduled to tip off. Is a PPH shop really going to get past-posted when they write a bet on Clemson vs Virginia at 12:02? Please!

packer2012 · Feb 15, 2014

Scott you must already know that these are just more examples of books being chickenshit and don't really want people to gamble. They just want childish morons to give them money over and over. All casinos would remove sportsbooks as well as table games and just rape people on slots if they could get away with it. Far less overhead on slots. So far clients want the availability of tables and the convenience to be able to bet on sports. However, as time goes by, it gets harder and harder to place a decent sized bet or continue to get paid if you are a winner. The books (offshore or Vegas) will greatly limit you or cut you off all together if you win. People can sugar-coat this any way they want to but I am speaking the truth.

ScottL · Feb 15, 2014

Hey I just want a Franklin on 667 So Dakota OVER at 2pm

tatehill2000 · Feb 15, 2014

Yep... leaving offshore as we speak

Betallsports · Feb 15, 2014

Scott L said:
Hey I just want a Franklin on 667 So Dakota OVER at 2pm

139.5

ScottL · Feb 15, 2014

Is that the Total or the Attendance?

What time did it come up, 1:45?
azzkick(&^

Betallsports · Feb 15, 2014

Scott L said:
Is that the Total or the Attendance?

What time did it come up, 1:45?
azzkick(&^

nah... it was up almost all morning @ BOL

TopShelf11 · Feb 15, 2014

I see at least 10 books that had it.

ScottL · Feb 15, 2014

Am I going to actually have to post up for the first time in my life?

Is that what this industry is coming to?

And what if 5 minutes after I deposit BOL decides "No More Totals?"

Can't believe I have to work so hard just to lay 11/10

ScottL · Feb 15, 2014

TopShelf11 said:
I see at least 10 books that had it.

You want a cookie?

Most DO NOT. That's the issue.

gmrcharity · Feb 15, 2014

You need to find some new books. It was there all morning

Scott L said:
Is that the Total or the Attendance?

What time did it come up, 1:45?
azzkick(&^

ScottL · Feb 15, 2014

I guess some people just miss the point, which is that the Total should come out with the Line on every game, at every book. I guess that's too much to ask. Most places don't put them up at all:
http://www.madduxsports.com/college-basketball-lines.php#odds
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TopShelf11 · Feb 15, 2014

gmrcharity said:
You need to find some new books. It was there all morning

He doesn't get it.

HarryCaray · Feb 15, 2014

Scott L said:
Added Games! Having to scroll through an entire menu through the night games to see the afternoon added games. Put them in the Fucking Rotation already or take the damn Conference off the board entirely!

This drives me absolutely insane as well.

Akillies · Feb 15, 2014

blame it on "quants"

$tinky · Feb 15, 2014

Scott L said:
I've been seething about this for awhile now. Is there some kind of myth that Totals are easier to beat than Sides? A few years ago we had no Totals at all in NCAAB for the first two weeks. Then they were up overnight. Then the following year they got posted at 11AM, but at least there was a Total for every game.

I think last year TOTALS came out overnight when the game prices were posted. Now this year they come out sporadically, if at all. CRIS posts them if they're "on TV" (whatever the Fuck that means in this modern age). 5Dimes has a Total on every game, but if you want a 4pm game you might have to wait until 3:45 to see a Line, IF you have an account there (If they didn't toss your credit agent out after the Superbowl)!!! Bama vs South Carolina at 4PM has No Total -- This is just lame.

What else? Added Games! Having to scroll through an entire menu through the night games to see the afternoon added games. Put them in the Fucking Rotation already or take the damn Conference off the board entirely!

Lastly, online books who take games off the board 1 second after they're scheduled to tip off. Is a PPH shop really going to get past-posted when they write a bet on Clemson vs Virginia at 12:02? Please!

The games go off the board automatically at the set game time. what would be wrong with you betting it before game time?

ScottL · Feb 15, 2014

$tinky said:
The games go off the board automatically at the set game time. what would be wrong with you betting it before game time?

I may have a Local go from -4 to -5 on a game based upon his action. So he'll move the Line right before post. And the one site with the 3.5 takes it down before the ref tosses the ball up.

ScottL · Feb 15, 2014

TopShelf11 said:
He doesn't get it.

You're an insipid Troll. Believe me I get it.

HarryCaray · Feb 15, 2014

$tinky said:
The games go off the board automatically at the set game time. what would be wrong with you betting it before game time?

One thing that bothers me with this is sometimes I'm WATCHING the game, they're announcing the starting lineup, and the game goes OTB like 3-5 minutes before actual tip. Just kind of frustrating but I do understand that it would be extremely difficult/impossible for a book to be watching every game and pull it OTB right at tip.

ScottL · Feb 15, 2014

HarryCaray said:
One thing that bothers me with this is sometimes I'm WATCHING the game, they're announcing the starting lineup, and the game goes OTB like 3-5 minutes before actual tip. Just kind of frustrating but I do understand that it would be extremely difficult/impossible for a book to be watching every game and pull it OTB right at tip.

How could they watch the Tipoff? They have one eye on CRIS and the other on 5Dimes, so they can move on air. But at least at 5Dimes you can submit a wager at 1:03 on a 1pm game. I've played 7:05 NBA games both there and at thegreek at 7:12 without an issue.