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Some coaches, including Nick Saban are lobbying hard for the 10 second rule that would make it a 5 yard penalty for teams to snap the ball within the 1st 10 seconds of the playclock.... The reason being for saftey....

Auburn head coach Gus Malzahn, have pointed out that "there's absolutely zero documented evidence that is hazardous on the pace of play, only opinions,"....

Saban followed it up with this analogy "The fastball guys (up-tempo coaches) say there's no data out there, and I guess you have to use some logic. What's the logic? If you smoke one cigarette, do you have the same chances of getting cancer if you smoke 20? I guess there's no study that specifically says that. But logically, we would say, 'Yeah, there probably is.'"

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1) it wouldn't change anything in ncaaf since teams do not snap less than :10 on average
2) coaches saying there's no evidence are straight up lying

i'm not even talking the obvious anecdotal evidence that the more hits to the head you take in a game (inability to substitute = staying on field for more plays) but actual studies that are being ignored

Purdue U did a 2 year study on high school players and found clearly that it's not one big hit that leads to concussions it's taking many hits over and over (like a kid that can't get off the field)

so coaches can keep their heads in the sand because of their beloved offensive schemes and saban/bielema can say they are worried about the health of the kids but both are lying. they want what's best for their football teams....period

clearly not allowing substitutions and taking more hits will = more concussions. the studies are there and the data is there. they've done a good job in trying to eliminate head-on-head collisions but the data suggests those shots aren't the real issues it's the culmination of many collisions, not specifically because of one big bad hit to the head. there's a reason soccer players get concussed at a very high rate...they use their head to hit the ball over and over and over and over. it's the repeated contact that takes a toll, not one big shot so obviously the less hits you have to take, the better off your brain will be

but whether it's CNS, or DickRod, or Leach, or Bretty B ... they don't give a dick about the 19 year old they care about winning games and whatever rule(s) they can sway to help them do so will be useful

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Helmet-sensor impact data from each player were compared with brain-imaging scans and cognitive tests performed before, during and after each season.


"The most important implication of the new findings is the suggestion that a concussion is not just the result of a single blow, but it's really the totality of blows that took place over the season," said Eric Nauman, an associate professor of mechanical engineering and an expert in central nervous system and musculoskeletal trauma. "The one hit that brought on the concussion is arguably the straw that broke the camel's back."


Researchers evaluated players using a type of brain imaging technology called functional magnetic resonance imaging, or fMRI, along with a computer-based neurocognitive screening test. The fMRI scans reveal which parts of the brain are most active during specific tasks.

Thomas Talavage, an expert in functional neuroimaging and co-director of the Purdue MRI Facility, said the scans indicate players are adapting their mental processes to deal with brain changes.


"The changes in brain activity we are observing suggest that a player is having to use a different strategy to perform a task, and that is likely because functional capacity is reduced," Talavage said. "The level of change in the fMRI signal is significantly correlated to the number and distribution of hits that a player takes. Performance doesn't change, but brain activity changes, showing that certain areas are no longer being recruited to perform a task."

Findings, detailed in a paper to appear online in the Journal of Biomechanics, are contrary to conventional thinking.

"Most clinicians would say that if you don't have any concussion symptoms you have no problems," said Larry Leverenz, an expert in athletic training and a clinical professor of health and kinesiology. "However, we are finding that there is actually a lot of change, even when you don't have symptoms."


The research may help to determine how many blows it takes to cause impairment, which could lead to safety guidelines on limiting the number of hits a player receives per week.


"Any change in fMRI data is a concern, but we don't yet know what these changes mean, what they translate to, in terms of cognitive impairment," Breedlove said.
 

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Personaly i dont think the rule is needed , most of the time (even when teams dont huddle) they still use more than 10 seconds off the clock. ...Most of the time the lineman raise up and peer over to the sidelines like a bunch of meerkats.

It DOES prevent the defense from making substitutions but when you recruit like Bama you should be able to man-up and play 11 on 11.

I dont think this will pass , but they may later bring back a proposal that was previously turned down to stop the clock after first downs.
 

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The Rules Committee has tabled it. So it won't be implemented in 2014. Bottom line is fans don't want to see games end in 10-3 anymore. Let's face it, watching teams with a lot of offense is plain entertaining. At the same time, it's always intersting to see how teams are going to defend it. Saban hasn't quite figured that out yet.
 

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Saban hasn't quite figured that out yet.

I know four things he's figured out in the high-tempo offensive era

(hint: crystal, in shape of a football)

- btw why not just toss out the rule that the defense isn't allowed to sub a player unless the offense does. if they want to sub guys during a team's high-tempo offense, let them. simple....

teams aren't snapping inside of :10 anyway so who gives a shit. let the D sub as much as they want...if they get caught with 7 guys on the field, then they're SOL
 

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if they are worried about # of plays, why don't they just make the game 10 min quarters or play halves instead of quarters. They aren't even trying to make an argument besides the obvious one that they don't like it cause they don't do it
 

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I know four things he's figured out in the high-tempo offensive era

(hint: crystal, in shape of a football)

- btw why not just toss out the rule that the defense isn't allowed to sub a player unless the offense does. if they want to sub guys during a team's high-tempo offense, let them. simple....

teams aren't snapping inside of :10 anyway so who gives a shit. let the D sub as much as they want...if they get caught with 7 guys on the field, then they're SOL
Some teams snap within 10 seconds. Most don't. But they should be given the choice if they want to. As for that injury study, I've seen just as many articles that says just the opposite of what you posted. So let's not kid ourselves, football is dangerous any way you look at it. If they passed this Saban rule, what's next, shorten the quarters so we have less plays?
 

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Jesus Christ who gives afuck about the 10 second rule in college football, it's fucking March 5th for Christs sake. We've had football shoved down our throats for the last 8 fucking months. How about a breath of fucking fresh air. If you're into sports it's fucking impossible to get away from football for a few months. Some of you should crumple up about 12 different newspaper's sports sections and eat the son of a bitches.

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if they are worried about # of plays, why don't they just make the game 10 min quarters or play halves instead of quarters. They aren't even trying to make an argument besides the obvious one that they don't like it cause they don't do it
You read my mind. Stupid rule change all the way around. Let's just set football back another 20 years while we're at it.
 

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i love how guys like GoSooners just look at this like it's a Nick Saban issue trying to level the playing field. that's fucking classic. dude has won 3 trophies in 5 years with all these high-octane offenses and suddenly he "hasn't quite figured" out how to defend it? are you seriously kidding me? Just you circling the sugar bowl win as some sort of feather in the OU cap tells me the jealousy and Bama-envy that's out there.

i agree with Ty there is no need for a specific rule here...just drop the rule that the defense can only sub guys out if the offense allows it and everything is fair. Stupid to make kids who are completely gassed have to stay on the field when there's a dozen kids 75 feet away that can sub in for him in :05 and the only reason they can't do it is because the team with the ball isn't doing it

that's like saying only the team with the previous possession in nba is allowed to sub a player. Football is the only sport that has these weird sub rules and we wouldn't be going back to 10-3 games just because both sides are allowed to sub, at will, during the run of play.

btw if anyone thinks watching wash state throw 7 INT's in a game instead of 5 because they run more plays is bringing football forward, they're seriously mistaken
 

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Jesus Christ who gives afuck about the 10 second rule in college football, it's fucking March 5th for Christs sake. We've had football shoved down our throats for the last 8 fucking months. How about a breath of fucking fresh air. If you're into sports it's fucking impossible to get away from football for a few months. Some of you should crumple up about 12 different newspaper's sports sections and eat the son of a bitches.

Thank you and have a nice night.

aren't you going to whine today about being on post review?
 

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i love how guys like GoSooners just look at this like it's a Nick Saban issue trying to level the playing field. that's fucking classic. dude has won 3 trophies in 5 years with all these high-octane offenses and suddenly he "hasn't quite figured" out how to defend it? are you seriously kidding me? Just you circling the sugar bowl win as some sort of feather in the OU cap tells me the jealousy and Bama-envy that's out there.

i agree with Ty there is no need for a specific rule here...just drop the rule that the defense can only sub guys out if the offense allows it and everything is fair. Stupid to make kids who are completely gassed have to stay on the field when there's a dozen kids 75 feet away that can sub in for him in :05 and the only reason they can't do it is because the team with the ball isn't doing it

that's like saying only the team with the previous possession in nba is allowed to sub a player. Football is the only sport that has these weird sub rules and we wouldn't be going back to 10-3 games just because both sides are allowed to sub, at will, during the run of play.

btw if anyone thinks watching wash state throw 7 INT's in a game instead of 5 because they run more plays is bringing football forward, they're seriously mistaken
Subbing players just because they're gassed huh? Isn't that part of the purpose of the no huddle, to wear down the other team? Why we're at it, the coaches should champion a rule allowing the committee to decide if your players are too big and fast. Obviously the combination of size and speed determins the significance of the impact. Therefore, for safety reasons, this committee should take a look at Bama's roster and say "sorry, these guys are just too fast for their size, they need to drop 15 pounds and slow down." Makes about as much sense.
 

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let's just set football back another 20 years while we're at it.

5 points and 1 less play/game?

that's what you're afraid of :)

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Subbing players just because they're gassed huh? Isn't that part of the purpose of the no huddle, to wear down the other team? Why we're at it, the coaches should champion a rule allowing the committee to decide if your players are too big and fast. Obviously the combination of size and speed determins the significance of the impact. Therefore, for safety reasons, this committee should take a look at Bama's roster and say "sorry, these guys are just too fast for their size, they need to drop 15 pounds and slow down." Makes about as much sense.

actually since the offense can dictate whether the defense is allowed to sub WHEN they do sub why not let them pick the defender that can come in? hell while they're at it it should be 11 vs 10 anyway. people only want to watch baylor and arizona state play, right? (that's why Bama ratings are so awful)

c'mon GS... simply allow defenses to sub when they want. you don't need an official regulating it just let them sub. if the offense catches them with too many players on the field, free 5 yards. a win-win and we don't need to resort to those archaic day of 70.5 plays/game we can keep it at this blistering 71.8
 

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5 points and 1 less play/game?

that's what you're afraid of :)

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RT, you don't think almost a touchdown difference in 20 years is a big difference? I think it's huge. They run the same amount of plays because the clock stopped for just about everything 20 years ago. I also think the over 40 yards per game more is a big difference considering it's about the same number of plays.
 

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actually since the offense can dictate whether the defense is allowed to sub WHEN they do sub why not let them pick the defender that can come in? hell while they're at it it should be 11 vs 10 anyway. people only want to watch baylor and arizona state play, right? (that's why Bama ratings are so awful)

c'mon GS... simply allow defenses to sub when they want. you don't need an official regulating it just let them sub. if the offense catches them with too many players on the field, free 5 yards. a win-win and we don't need to resort to those archaic day of 70.5 plays/game we can keep it at this blistering 71.8
I'm not so much against subbing if they can do it and it doesn't slow down the game. But the 10 second rule goes. You take your chances with the subs. I think it's just as detrimental to try to sub anyway, because it doesn't allow the defense to get set up in time for whatever offensive scheme the opponents are going to run. I know because I see it every week in the Big 12. But they are getting much better at it because Big 12 coaches see the HUNH every week. And the Big 12 also uses an extra official. Which all conferences should do with more teams going to it.
 
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actually since the offense can dictate whether the defense is allowed to sub WHEN they do sub why not let them pick the defender that can come in? hell while they're at it it should be 11 vs 10 anyway. people only want to watch baylor and arizona state play, right? (that's why Bama ratings are so awful)

c'mon GS... simply allow defenses to sub when they want. you don't need an official regulating it just let them sub. if the offense catches them with too many players on the field, free 5 yards. a win-win and we don't need to resort to those archaic day of 70.5 plays/game we can keep it at this blistering 71.8

Love the hyperbole. The offense should be allowed to dictate the pace of the game. As Kevin Sumlin said, that's why it's called defense.
 

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if they are worried about # of plays, why don't they just make the game 10 min quarters or play halves instead of quarters. They aren't even trying to make an argument besides the obvious one that they don't like it cause they don't do it
I thought the same thing too.

Defensive minded. What's better for thier winning percentage, not what's better for the kids
 

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