DRAFT DAY ..... In-Game and Discussion Thread 2014

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Let's get this Party Started Early...... Hours away and I'm Ready !


Biggest question of the day.... Who goes #1 Overall ?

Biggest 1A question of the day .... will the Texans Trade down ? or will they just take that #1 Overall ?
That probably will not happen, but we have seen it done.

Where will Manziel go ??


My own personal question, Will Eric Ebron ( out of NC ) still be there when my JETS pick at #18 ??
 

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I really don't have a ton of opinions on the draft cause I don't watch much college football but I do think its nuts Clowney isn't unanimous #1. He is the best/most dominant defensive prospect I can remember. Houston should draft him and put him with Watt and call it a day.

Who cares if he has questionable work ethic. It's your job as coach/organization to harness his talent/potential. You just can't pass on a freak like that even if there is a 20% chance he is gonna bust because of other concerns.
 
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I really don't have a ton of opinions on the draft cause I don't watch much college football but I do think its nuts Clowney isn't unanimous #1. He is the best/most dominant defensive prospect I can remember. Houston should draft him and put him with Watt and call it a day.

Who cares if he has questionable work ethic. It's your job as coach/organization to harness his talent/potential. You just can't pass on a freak like that even if there is a 20% chance he is gonna bust because of other concerns.

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IF Clowney goes 1, I'd love to see the Rams trade back. They want an OL there are 4 of em, one will be there @ 8, trade w/Vikes, they take Mack & give a combo of a 2 in 15, + a 3 now or both 3"s now, tho that may be too much. Love the draft.
 

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Biggest off-season deal was Bengals getting rid of Gruden for Jackson
 
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IF Clowney goes 1, I'd love to see the Rams trade back. They want an OL there are 4 of em, one will be there @ 8, trade w/Vikes, they take Mack & give a combo of a 2 in 15, + a 3 now or both 3"s now, tho that may be too much. Love the draft.

they take Greg Robinson at #2 ?
 
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Just read that Clowney signed an endorsement deal with Puma, but won't be able to wear cleats with the Puma logo on the field.
because Puma doesn't have a Deal with the NFL
 

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i really lost interest in the draft for the last 2-3 years,so its no big deal to me anymore.most of these players this day and age don't pan out like in the past anyway
 

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clowney #1…think my steelers take a corner or a big receiver if available…maybe ebron
 

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they take Greg Robinson at #2 ?

Yes, they need an OL. But, 3 of them are just about even, & the only tm between 2 & 8 needing an OL IMO is Atl.! So either Lewan, Mathews or even Martin will be there for them. Wishful thinking on my part, expecting Spielman to think,:think2: or even do so outide the box. WTF do any of us really know, including Kiper?
 

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Yes, they need an OL. But, 3 of them are just about even, & the only tm between 2 & 8 needing an OL IMO is Atl.! So either Lewan, Mathews or even Martin will be there for them. Wishful thinking on my part, expecting Spielman to think,:think2: or even do so outide the box. WTF do any of us really know, including Kiper?

i've read a lot that the rams plan on taking GR, excited to have him on team they say. of course it's all speculation until the announcement is made.
 
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Players who go too high, too low

[h=3]A dozen players who could be drafted earlier or later than they should be[/h] Updated: May 8, 2014, 11:08 AM ET
<cite class="source"> By Mel Kiper Jr. | ESPN Insider</cite>
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<cite>AP Photo/John Raoux</cite>Could Florida State wideout Kelvin Benjamin go in Round 1 of the NFL draft?


One of the things I always find humorous is when people claim I love or hate a player based on where I have him in a mock draft. Anybody who knows my history can go back and see numerous instances in which I've disagreed with my own mocks -- just look into where I stood on Jeff George. Mocks are, by definition, a projection of what I think teams could do. They aren't a recommendation based on my evaluations.
So in this case I wanted to offer a glimpse into where I could end up disagreeing with my own mocks. I'm looking at players who could be taken too high, or too low. In the cases where they are taken too high, I simply don't think the player is worth as much as the likely pick slot. In the case of a player taken too low, I just think he's underrated.
Let's take a look.

[h=3]Overdrafted[/h]
On offense
WR Kelvin Benjamin goes too high if ...
He's taken in Round 1.
He offers intimidating size at 6-foot-5 and 240-plus pounds, not to mention an 83-inch wingspan, but Benjamin has rough edges as a receiver, with inconsistent hands and merely average ability as a route-runner. And while he's massive, he doesn't separate from defenders with his speed (he ran a 4.61 40-yard dash at the combine in Indianapolis). I think he needs development and is a better fit in Round 2.

QB Zach Mettenberger goes too high if ...
He goes before Round 4. Even before you question the intangibles, you have to take into consideration the slow feet and lack of escapability combined with a release that isn't on the quick side. Mettenberger could succeed in a system where the blocking is assured, but he's vulnerable otherwise. He's worth a developmental shot, but not before Day 3.


WR Cody Latimer goes too high if ...
He goes in Round 1. There's a good chance he ends up there (I had him there in a recent mock), but my concern with Latimer is the ability to separate. He worked out well, but he doesn't play as fast with the pads on, and isn't the type of quick-twitch athlete who can shake defenders easily. His hands are very good, but Round 1 is a little bit of a reach for me.


On defense
CB Bradley Roby goes too high if ...
He goes before Kyle Fuller. That would likely mean in Round 1. Roby is a special athlete, but he's inconsistent and needs to clean up his game from a technical standpoint. He could be a rookie that gets feasted on by savvy NFL wide receivers unless he learns quickly. He's worth an upside bet, but Fuller offers more certainty.


DT Ra'Shede Hageman goes too high if ...
He goes before Stephon Tuitt. I realize these are different types of players, but part of this assessment is based on the fact that at a similar size, Tuitt plays with more explosiveness when he's 100 percent. Tuitt's tape from his sophomore season greatly exceeds anything Hageman has shown.


OLB Anthony Barr goes too high if ...
He goes inside the top 20. His production was outstanding, but his awareness on defense is average to below average, and his main weapon as a pass-rusher is speed -- there isn't really any variety. He can be a good player with development, but he's not worth a high pick, given the questions.


[h=3]Underdrafted[/h]
On offense
RB Carlos Hyde goes too low if ...
He falls past the middle of Round 2. In fact, I think Tennessee would be making a mistake if it doesn't grab him at No. 42. I realize running back is a position that lacks the importance it once had, but you get the added benefit of immediate returns from a player with this kind of talent. Hyde is a potential rookie of the year.


WR Bruce Ellington goes too low if ...
He falls into Round 2. Brandin Cooks is a very good player, and is likely off the board in the middle of Round 1. But if you watch the tape, you might say Ellington plays faster, and he can challenge a defender both underneath and over the top. He could be a steal.


TE C.J. Fiedorowicz goes too low if ...
He's around late in Round 3. Don't mistake the 6-5, 265-pounder as a plodder who simply runs a straight line and posts up. He can really move, dropping his hips to cut quickly and finding ways to separate from defenders. He's not a straight-line burner, but he can help an offense soon.


On defense
DE Stephon Tuitt goes too low if ...
He's still on the board in Round 2. I love the fit in Seattle, where versatile linemen thrive, and Tuitt is a talented player who would be going higher if he had been healthy in 2013. If he's in great shape, he can be an impact rookie.


S Jimmie Ward goes too low if ...
He's around past the middle of Round 2. Don't be worried about a lack of competition. Ward looks like he's a step ahead of everybody else, and his instincts and range will play well at the next level. So many teams need safeties, so I'd be surprised if my No. 33-ranked prospect is around long on Day 2, if at all.


OLB Kyle Van Noy goes too low if ...
He's around past No. 45 (Detroit Lions). One of the more versatile defenders in the draft, Van Noy can feasibly play anywhere at linebacker, and shows great instincts and pursuit speed. If he went in Round 1, I wouldn't be the least bit bothered by it, as I consider him a top-30 player in this draft.
 

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I always wish I were a Jets fan on Draft Day... You know, being able to pick just about anyone, and improving the team.
 

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Considering their track record with QB's, Cleveland's first 5 picks should be nothing but QB's.
 
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Report: Manziel 'believed to be the No. 1 player' on Cowboys' board?

The Johnny Manziel-to-the-Dallas Cowboys rumors continue to fly.


ESPN draft guru Todd McShay had Manziel going to the Cowboys at 16 in his Thursday morning mock, a drastic change from his previous five projections.


McShay had been set on the Cowboys addressing their glaring needs on defense. Notre Dame defensive tackle Stephon Tuitt, Alabama safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Florida State defensive tackle Timmy Jernigan and Louisville safety Calvin Pryor have been his previous choices for Dallas.


So why switch to Manziel now? Maybe stir up a little extra attention hours before the big event?


"We've had more than one person in the league tell us that Manziel is believed to be the No. 1 player on the Cowboys' board," McShay wrote, "and it wouldn't surprise us if they took him here if he's still available."


When the possibility of Dallas drafting Manziel was discussed Tuesday during a pre-draft press conference at Valley Ranch, Cowboys coach Jason Garrett fought to hold back laughter. Team owner and GM Jerry Jones never said he absolutely wouldn't draft Manziel;

however, he expressed that the state of the quarterback position is not close to being one of his top concerns.


"It is not our primary goal in the first round to be looking at a quarterback," Jones said. "We've got a good one."


Yes, Tony Romo turned 34 last month and he's coming off another back surgery, but the Cowboys can't seriously address the quarterback position with all those needs on defense, can they?

We'll find out tonight.
 

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