When Betting Money Line Sports, what should be the "Cut-Off" ?

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When Betting Money Line Sports, what should be the "Cut-Off" ?

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I try my best to limit myself to -150, I use to think -165

Of course I know guys that bet ANY money line, including NFL ML's which could be a Killer ( -300/ -450 )

Just can't see laying that kind of juice
 

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Cutoff for me is -170

If baseball line is above -170 I will bet the -1 RL

Football I will bet ML ALL DAY but I will parlay them, never play them straight
 
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Cutoff for me is -170

If baseball line is above -170 I will bet the -1 RL

Football I will bet ML ALL DAY but I will parlay them, never play them straight

Good to know that you are Smart enough to know not to bet Football ML's straight .....
 

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There is no right answer here. If you shackle yourself by saying you have a specific cutoff you will miss out on some value.


If a team is -170 but you believe they should be -220 but you're cutoff is -150 you are missing an opportunity.

There are no Laws in sports betting.
 
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There is no right answer here. If you shackle yourself by saying you have a specific cutoff you will miss out on some value.


If a team is -170 but you believe they should be -220 but you're cutoff is -150 you are missing an opportunity.

There are no Laws in sports betting.

I don't see it that way...

I believe you should find better Value somewhere else.

It's all about laying less to Me. That's why I get -105 in most of my Outs.
 

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I don't see it that way...

I believe you should find better Value somewhere else.

It's all about laying less to Me. That's why I get -105 in most of my Outs.

For the vast majority of time, yes. Probably 85% of my baseball bets are either + money or -110 or less. I think as a GENERAL rule it is wise to stay away from high juice. General being the key word here. However I don't hold myself in a box where I can't go outside a certain limit. If I see value in a big fav I will take it. All i'm saying is in sports betting you have to have the ability to think dynamically rather than having a linear viewpoint on any scenario.
 

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I agree with Justin, if you think there's value get it. Knowing the proper stake to make to counter the variance is what's important. Keep this in mind though, the bigger the Dog and the bigger the Favorite, the more vig you will have to overcome. So it's probably a good rule not to bet them, since it will be far and few in between that you find value there. If you are betting big dogs and favorites as a rule you will lose.
 
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why do you say that BAS? just curious as I'm not a well seasoned gambler more of a mush and a guppie

Because if you are laying $450 to Win $100 and Lose, it will take a while to get out of that Hole.

I've seen guys lay this kind of chalk and get Buried, then try to dig them self out and most of the time it only gets worst.
If you parlay them $100 to win say... $250 or whatever, if you lose at least it's only $100 bucks.
 

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Because if you are laying $450 to Win $100 and Lose, it will take a while to get out of that Hole.

I've seen guys lay this kind of chalk and get Buried, then try to dig them self out and most of the time it only gets worst.
If you parlay them $100 to win say... $250 or whatever, if you lose at least it's only $100 bucks.


got ya thanks i thought you meant a ML the was around -150 but i see your point
 

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Getting reduced juice is huge when managing variance. Most ML's are 10( when reduced) or 20 cents only up to a certain point. People don't realize that when you play the big favs and dogs you are paying more juice and it will kill you faster than reduced juice. Most lines that are -300 will be +250 on the other side, thats 50 cents of vig! And the higher you go the more vig they put into the lines. Generally it's a bad idea.
 

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Because if you are laying $450 to Win $100 and Lose, it will take a while to get out of that Hole.

I've seen guys lay this kind of chalk and get Buried, then try to dig them self out and most of the time it only gets worst.
If you parlay them $100 to win say... $250 or whatever, if you lose at least it's only $100 bucks.


You are not avoiding a -400 price by parlaying it with another -400. You are actually betting that line twice. One should not think they are doing so by parlaying. What one is actually doing with a 100 dollar parlay is risking 100 to win 25, then (providing it wins) risking 125 to win 36. One should not falsely believe they are avoiding high prices by parlaying. In actuality, they are doing it multiple times.
 

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You are not avoiding a -400 price by parlaying it with another -400. You are actually betting that line twice. One should not think they are doing so by parlaying. What one is actually doing with a 100 dollar parlay is risking 100 to win 25, then (providing it wins) risking 125 to win 36. One should not falsely believe they are avoiding high prices by parlaying. In actuality, they are doing it multiple times.

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Getting reduced juice is huge when managing variance. Most ML's are 10( when reduced) or 20 cents only up to a certain point. People don't realize that when you play the big favs and dogs you are paying more juice and it will kill you faster than reduced juice. Most lines that are -300 will be +250 on the other side, thats 50 cents of vig! And the higher you go the more vig they put into the lines. Generally it's a bad idea.

You are not avoiding a -400 price by parlaying it with another -400. You are actually betting that line twice. One should not think they are doing so by parlaying. What one is actually doing with a 100 dollar parlay is risking 100 to win 25, then (providing it wins) risking 125 to win 36. One should not falsely believe they are avoiding high prices by parlaying. In actuality, they are doing it multiple times.

Very astute points, good discussion.
 
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You are not avoiding a -400 price by parlaying it with another -400. You are actually betting that line twice. One should not think they are doing so by parlaying. What one is actually doing with a 100 dollar parlay is risking 100 to win 25, then (providing it wins) risking 125 to win 36. One should not falsely believe they are avoiding high prices by parlaying. In actuality, they are doing it multiple times.

Agree, i said it wrong.

but using the $100 sample, if I played 2 game at -400 and lost both, I would lose $800
if I played that parlay ( even I don't believing in parlaying 2 huge favs ) I would lose $100

thats what I was trying to say
 

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As far as cut offs, probably depends on the sport. I think with baseball you tread closer to the -110 mark. But college sports in general, most games are very tilted with heavy favorites/dogs so I would speculate most have higher cut off points for those sports with regards to favorites.


For me, I never bet ml favs in the nfl. Exception would be in the Super Bowl where the ml for, say, a 7 point favorite trends closer to -220 as opposed to the -300 you wil find during regular season.
 

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Agree, i said it wrong.

but using the $100 sample, if I played 2 game at -400 and lost both, I would lose $800
if I played that parlay ( even I don't believing in parlaying 2 huge favs ) I would lose $100

thats what I was trying to say

correct and I understand exactly what you are saying, however, your example is not apples to apples. One you are actually putting 800 into play, the other you are putting 100 into play. Apples to apples would be playing a -800 fave, risking 100 to win 12.50.
 
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Usually don't play anything higher than -150 (only bet ML's in hockey and baseball) but if a big fave represents value you've got to fire.
 

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