Seinfeld at 25: There’s Still Nothing Else Like It

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<section class="article-body" itemprop="articleBody"> <figure class="landscape"> [h=2]Seinfeld at 25: There’s Still Nothing Else Like It[/h]
<time class="publish-date" itemprop="datePublished" datetime="2014-07-03 11:58:36" pubdate="">July 3, 2014</time>


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<figcaption class="image-caption"> Jason Alexander as George Costanza, Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Elaine Benes, Jerry Seinfeld as Jerry Seinfeld and Michael Richards as Cosmo Kramer George Lange—NBC/Getty Images </figcaption> </figure> [h=2]Some TV shows are classics because of all the followers they influenced. Seinfeld is one great that's never truly been imitated.[/h] <aside class="right-rail-module rr-taboola-video" data-name="rr-taboola-video"></aside>When Fox unveiled its 2014-15 schedule to advertisers in May, soon-to-be-former network head Kevin Reilly introduced one of its new sitcoms, Mulaney, as having “the makings of a Seinfeld for a new generation.” It was an eyebrow-raiser, partly because (1) talk about setting the bar high for the poor show and (2) how many shows over the past 25 years have even tried, let alone been able to legitimately claim, to be the next Seinfeld?
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</aside>There’s a lot of talk around the show’s quarter-century anniversary (July 5) about its legacy, and sure, it has plenty, beyond its continuing ubiquity, quotability and popularity in reruns. You could argue that it allowed future sitcoms to assume a more sophisticated comedy audience (OK, though it’s not like Cheers was exactly Hee Haw). In New York magazine, Matt Zoller Seitz argues incisively that its influence was at least as much in drama as comedy, as its unlikeable-yet-much-loved characters “paved the way” for antiheroes like Tony Soprano.
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</aside>And yet–as maybe befits a show that didn’t go soft and have its characters start families–Seinfeld doesn’t have nearly as many kids running around the neighborhood as its contemporaries or followers. Friends begat a zillion young-adult hangout comedies. The surrogate-family structure of Cheers is everywhere, as is the reality-TV influenced mock-realism of The Office and the machine-gun jokestream of The Simpsons. The X-Files, Lost, The Sopranos, American Idol have been relentlessly homaged and stolen from.
Seinfeld, on the other hand, is at best echoed, and only rarely well. Excepting Curb Your Enthusiasm–can Larry David be influenced by himself?–maybe the only current comedy that’s reproduced Seinfeld‘s gleeful mercenary approach to comedy is It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia. For the most part, though, after 25 years, Seinfeld is like its quartet of incarcerated characters were at the end of its finale–alone in its world, sufficient unto itself.
That’s not a criticism of Seinfeld. It’s one more reason the show is great.
There’s a tendency in criticism, not just TV criticism, to define greatness by influence. Great artists don’t just paint canvases, they launch movements. Great musicians pass on their DNA–like The Velvet Underground, of whom it was said everyone who bought their first album started a band. Maybe it’s a way of quantifying what’s ultimately a subjective judgment: if you can point to a legacy, to followers, to a school, you’re saying that history agrees with your verdict.
Influence is one measure of greatness, but another, opposite one is inimitability. Some great art reproduces virally. And some is the product of a perspective (or in the case of Seinfeld and David, two) that nature can’t come up with twice. There will always be wild-eyed poets, but there was exactly one William Blake.
Which is why in many ways Seinfeld seems as different from anything on the air today as it did 25 years ago. (OK, 24 years ago–it took a while for Seinfeld to really become Seinfeld.) It has a comedian’s purity of focus on the sanctity of the joke above all–above sentiment, “relatability,” larger social meaning–that still feels bracingly we-don’t-give-a-damn. (Bryan Cranston’s dentist, who converted to Judaism out of no larger social agenda but simply “for the jokes” may have been the most echt-Seinfeldian of all Seinfeld bit characters.) Sex and the City mirrored its quartet structure and observed New York City minutely, but God help Seinfeld if it ever tapped out a what-it-all-means on its laptop. There are many sitcoms today of equal or greater ambition, but Louie and Girls, say, are still devoted to being about things: Jerry, George and company would sooner spend life in prison than wax philosophical about love or be the voice of anyone’s generation, even ironically.
And “no hugging, no learning”? Cosby-esque “learning” may be out of fashion but there’s plenty of hugging on the brilliant likes of Parks and Recreation. Arrested Development had a Seinfeldian darkness, but it still told you that family was more important than breakfast. (Jerry had a kitchen full of cereal to refute that argument.) Hell, even antihero dramas like Breaking Bad assume a moral universe of good and bad and judgment. George may not have poisoned his wedding envelopes, but his shrugging off Susan’s death was in its way colder and more gangster than anything Walter White did with Lily of the Valley.
People have had a lot of fun imagining how Seinfeld might be received today in the Outrage Dome of social media. College Humor, for instance, wondered what if would be like “If People Talked About Seinfeld Like They Talk About Girls.” It’s a funny bit, but in fact people did assail the show’s whiteness and privilege back then, its racial missteps like the Puerto Rican Day Parade episode and its alleged nihilism–there just weren’t as many platforms to do it from. The Twitter account Modern Seinfeld, likewise, imagines the show in the era of Instagram, but honestly, there’s no modernizing Seinfeld: it’s as audacious, timeless, and unparalleled as when it was made.
Which is why I don’t expect, or really want, ever to see a “Seinfeld for a new generation”: the show exists outside generations and time. Oh, and Mulaney? I’ve seen the pilot. It’s fine, and there are some superficial Seinfeld similarities (standup comedy segments, friends hanging out in the lead character’s apartment) but it probably needs time to find itself, just like a certain sitcom did 25 years ago. If it does–who knows?–it could become something that is like nothing else. This is the Zen koan of TV comedy: How do you become the next Seinfeld? By not being it.

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was watching it last night and thinking the same exact thing I was constantly laughing out loud to the show
 

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Seinfeld is an all time great, I was glad when Curb Your Enthusiasm came out also. The more adult version of Seinfeld
 
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While it was a good show, I always found it to be overrated.
 

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the first 2 or 3 seasons were awful.. from then on, it got better and better..
 

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While it was a good show, I always found it to be overrated.

Overrated? How? It was THE BEST television show EVER! As the article stated, it's timeless. You can watch it today and laugh your ass off. It was a "dark" show because of the characters lack of compassion, lack of love or caring, very shallow lifestyles. I tell all of my friends that pretty much any situation you find yourself in it was covered in a Seinfeld episode - maybe not exactly, but close. I constantly find myself say, "This happened on Seinfeld!"

Favorite show of all time for me.

The next closest was Eastbound & Down.
 

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Best show ever is an opinion.

I've rewatched the show recently and there are 2 seasons that are pure gold.

Season 1 - 5 episides, nothing great. Pilot episodes

Season 2 - Good, the characters star to come to life.

Season 3- The first above average season.

Season 4- The pinnacle of the fucking series. Amazing episodes. The characters are in full swing without seeming like caricatures.

Season 5- Above average but not that great. It sort of started to become predictable at this point with all the storylines coming together in the end.

Season 6 -Aveage not great. Already getting repetitive with some of the horse shit but still a lot of great moments.

Season 7 - The show was already past it's prime but there were good storylines with George

Season 8- Larry David left and the show went to complete shit. Jerry became a constant ****. George was always angry and no longer a 3d character. Elaine became a nagging bitch pusshing everyone constantly with her lame catchphrase "Get out."

Season 9- Pure and utter shit. This season was all trash with almost no good episodes in it. At this point the show was a parody of itself.
 
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Overrated? How? It was THE BEST television show EVER! As the article stated, it's timeless. You can watch it today and laugh your ass off. It was a "dark" show because of the characters lack of compassion, lack of love or caring, very shallow lifestyles. I tell all of my friends that pretty much any situation you find yourself in it was covered in a Seinfeld episode - maybe not exactly, but close. I constantly find myself say, "This happened on Seinfeld!"

Favorite show of all time for me.

The next closest was Eastbound & Down.

No such thing as the best show ever as it is all based on opinions & no possible facts. I don't think the show was bad but I would never consider it the best show of all time. Great hype machine behind it though which helps.
 

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No such thing as the best show ever as it is all based on opinions & no possible facts. I don't think the show was bad but I would never consider it the best show of all time. Great hype machine behind it though which helps.

Sorry bro. You couldn't be more wrong....
 

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Probably my favorite show all of time. I watched them live and still watch the reruns without it getting old.

I'm not sure if it's the best show ever though, it just got off to slow of a start, when reruns of the first season come on I just change the channel, they are just not good at all. To be the best show ever it should be great from start to finish.

I agree the Seinfeld in it's prime was the best show ever but you just can't ignore the poor seasons
 

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Not too many other shows that I can just watch over and over. Wish they would have a 24/7 Seinfeld channel
 

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One of the best for sure. Can still watch Seinfeld and MWC reruns and laugh
 
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Best show ever is an opinion.

I've rewatched the show recently and there are 2 seasons that are pure gold.

Season 1 - 5 episides, nothing great. Pilot episodes

Season 2 - Good, the characters star to come to life.

Season 3- The first above average season.

Season 4- The pinnacle of the fucking series. Amazing episodes. The characters are in full swing without seeming like caricatures.

Season 5- Above average but not that great. It sort of started to become predictable at this point with all the storylines coming together in the end.

Season 6 -Aveage not great. Already getting repetitive with some of the horse shit but still a lot of great moments.

Season 7 - The show was already past it's prime but there were good storylines with George

Season 8- Larry David left and the show went to complete shit. Jerry became a constant ****. George was always angry and no longer a 3d character. Elaine became a nagging bitch pusshing everyone constantly with her lame catchphrase "Get out."

Season 9- Pure and utter shit. This season was all trash with almost no good episodes in it. At this point the show was a parody of itself.


My favorite sitcom.. and pretty much spot on post IMO.. I like seasons 1-2 more than most fans..

Anything from season 8 or 9, I will not watch. They're awful.
 

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Loved All in the Family but there are at least 20 better
 

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