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    Well Today was pretty much a perfect day for me as Chris Froome only lost 1 second to the winning team of BMC. I knew I shouldn't have used the " Lock " word when I mentioned BMC as a 1 second victory was obviously NOT a lock ! LOL However the narrow victory allowed Chris Froome to not only retain his Yellow jersey as the race leader and He put a little time on all the main contenders except losing the 1 second to Tejay Van Garderen. Now comes a rest day tomorrow and then off to the Mountains ! GL I hope someone will post updated odds and I'll give my thoughts.
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    Terrific performance by Team Sky , deeper than I thought ! Nearly won it!! Barring a crash , going to be crazy tough to beat Froome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricboff View Post
    Terrific performance by Team Sky , deeper than I thought ! Nearly won it!! Barring a crash , going to be crazy tough to beat Froome.
    Sky as the holder of the yellow Jersey held the advantage of being the last off so they knew all along what time they had to beat. In view of yesterday's odds, I wish I'd be able to grab some of that 14/1 on TJ to protect my Froome wager in case He gets caught up in a crash. I hope you post some updated odds. I think the last time they went up against one another, BMC won by over 30 seconds so yes... an awesome performance by team Sky.
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    Struggling to copy and paste from the phone and ipad so I will do it manually during this conference call..

    Kermit, any input? Thinking of going with Froome for GC winner.

    GC Winner

    Froome 2/3
    Quintana 2/1
    Contador 9/1
    Tejay VG 14/1
    Nebali 25/1

    Points Classification
    Sagan 1/6
    Greipel 4/1

    King of the Mountains

    Quintana 3/1
    Froome 7/1
    Julian Arrendondo 8/1
    Pierre Rolland 8/1
    Thibaut Pinot 8/1
    Joaquim Rodriguez 12/1
    Contador 16/1

    Young Rider
    Quintana 1/8
    Warren Barguil 9/1
    Romain Bardet 12/1
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    I like Froome's chances. William Hill here in Vegas has Froome at - 220. Any odds on stage 10 ? I expect Quintana to be very aggressive in Mountain stages to try and make up some time. Froome will be content to just ride his rear wheel as I've seen this happen so many times.
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    stage 10 I like Quintana +185 over Froome at -225

    thoughts?
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    Love it ! Like I said, I've seen this happen so many times. Froome doesn't need to win any stage at this point. His entire strategy should be to NOT lose any time to any of the main GC contenders. I recall Lance winning the Tour without winning a single stage. The only way Froome will win a stage is IF He sees a weakness in one of the Main contenders especially Tejay who he leads by only 12 seconds.
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    I enjoy your insight and thought that play looked decent tooo, Quintana can be a little monster in those mountains and like you said, Froome just wants to stay close, not runaway
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    Stage 10 winner...

    Froome 7/4
    Quintana 11/4
    Contador 10/1
    Rodriguez 10/1
    Pinot 20/1
    Kruijswijk 25/1
    Tejay VG 25/1
    Nibali 33/1
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    http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/...-threat_377559

    FOUGERES, France (VN) — Chris Froome (Sky) is back in the maillot jaune, and quickly singled out Tejay van Garderen (BMC Racing) as one of his top rivals for overall victory at the Tour de France

    “If I have to assess most of my rivals at the moment, Tejay [van Garderen] is on great form,” Froome said. “He’s only a few seconds back, and he’s ridden really well all week.”

    The 2013 Tour winner also rattled through the others of the ‘Fab Four.’ He mentioned Nairo Quintana (Movistar) next, saying, “He’s lost a lot of time already, and that’s a big blow for him, but we do expect him to be there in the mountains. We’ll see to what extent.”


    On Alberto Contador (Tinkoff-Saxo), he said, “One of the big questions is how fresh he will be after the Giro, what he’ll be like in the mountains.” And finally, Vincenzo Nibali (Astana), he said, “We’ll see how he climbs. He’s been fine this first week.

    Froome, too, said the first week of the 2015 Tour couldn’t have gone better, especially when contrasted to his early exit in 2014.
    “Given what happened last year, it was a big thing, especially mentally, that I have that attitude, that I wanted to race at the front, and get through the first part without any major issues,” Froome said. “Also, having the classics guys around me, G [Geraint Thomas], Ian [Stannard], and Luke [Rowe], those guys are specialists, that’s given me a lot of confidence, and it makes my job a lot easier.”
    Soon enough, the Tour will turn out of the dangers of the hills of Northern France, Belgium, and the Netherlands, and climb into the Pyrénées and Alps. It’s clear that Froome will be keeping a very close eye on van Garderen.



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    One final thought. It is Bastille Day and no doubt there will be a breakaway early and it figures to be loaded with French Riders. Since Pinot is over 8 minutes behind in the GC, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go early. Also because He is so far behind, perhaps the main contenders for the GC will not be too worried about him and they will be more concentrating on the main GC contenders. Pinot is French and He can climb ! Perhaps a small wager on him at 20/1 might not be a bad wager. he's not in Quintana or Froome's class but give him a big lead and He might be hard to pull back. GL as tomorrow will be very interesting.
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    WOW !!! Chris Froome just blew away the field. They pretty much admited that they lied ! Pre race talk was that they wanted to be conservative in today first real Mountain stage. They call that conservative ? I'd hate to think of what they call aggresive ! Perhaps the main reason Froome attacked was because there was some obvious weakness by Contador, Nibali early on the last steep grade. However since this actually was probably the most ideal steep finish that caters to Froome's style, I think this was team Sky's plan from the start. They had me fooled as I thought Quintana would be the one to attack to try to make up some time. Now with almost a 3 minute lead in the Tour, I expect Froome to be conservative tomorrow. Of course what do I know ? LOL
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    um, wow, Chris is in sick form....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricboff View Post
    um, wow, Chris is in sick form....
    Yes, It sure makes you wonder what could have happened last year IF Froome hadn't fell several times on the cobblestones and had to withdraw with injuries.
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    yup

    and you're right, he may have smelled weakness. Quintana tried to hang to no avail........wow, just wow.
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    To put what Chris Froom has done today into perspective, it is not inconceivable that Froome could be going for his 4 th straight Tour De France victory IF not for circumstances. In 2012 when Bradley Wiggins won the Tour and Froome was there simply to help Wiggins up the steep Mountains, it was very apparent to everyone that Froome was easily the better climber. I mentioned it after the tour and sure enough Froome came back the next year and won the Tour in 2013. In 2014, as I mentioned in my last post, it seems very likely Froome would have been tough to beat IF not for the rain on the cobblestones and resulting injuries. This year He looks unbeatable. What I'm saying is that I'm not trying to take away from Wiggins or Nibali's victories as they earned their victories. However from a handicapping point of view... We should look at it as though He could easily have been the best cyclist in the Tour De France for the 4 th consecutive year. That's what I see ! I hate to say it but unless something weird happens, Froome should win easily. GL Another very tough day tomorrow with the famous Col Du Tourmalet coming into play. I see no reason for Froome to risk anything as He has a healthy lead over all the GC contenders. I see him simply staying close but not attacking unless He needs to follow an attack by a GC contender. That's my story and ..........
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    I have My Money's on Froome so today's stage is one of my main worries. its a very tough Mountain stage but I'm not worried about Chris in the climbs as much as the danger in the descents. Let hope He stays out of danger as his only real obstacle now is a crash. GL
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    Today's stage went more according to form as the GC contendors were not concerned about the breakaway cyclists as they all were well back in the standings. Rafal Majka went solo for the later part of the race and won the stage. Nibali, last year's winner was the only main contendor to lose any time and I guess We can now quit refering to him as a GC contendor. Tomorrow's stage is more like yesterday's stage with a tough climb at the finish so you might expect some excitement with some attacks ! I see no reason why Froome should feel a need to attack with the nice lead He has. Of course We know he can IF he wants to but it's still a ways to go so why risk it ? Any updated odds and I'll give my thoughts. Any chance to place your wagers on Chris Froome have come and gone JMHO GL
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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit16 View Post
    To put what Chris Froom has done today into perspective, it is not inconceivable that Froome could be going for his 4 th straight Tour De France victory IF not for circumstances. In 2012 when Bradley Wiggins won the Tour and Froome was there simply to help Wiggins up the steep Mountains, it was very apparent to everyone that Froome was easily the better climber. I mentioned it after the tour and sure enough Froome came back the next year and won the Tour in 2013. In 2014, as I mentioned in my last post, it seems very likely Froome would have been tough to beat IF not for the rain on the cobblestones and resulting injuries. This year He looks unbeatable. What I'm saying is that I'm not trying to take away from Wiggins or Nibali's victories as they earned their victories. However from a handicapping point of view... We should look at it as though He could easily have been the best cyclist in the Tour De France for the 4 th consecutive year. That's what I see ! I hate to say it but unless something weird happens, Froome should win easily. GL Another very tough day tomorrow with the famous Col Du Tourmalet coming into play. I see no reason for Froome to risk anything as He has a healthy lead over all the GC contenders. I see him simply staying close but not attacking unless He needs to follow an attack by a GC contender. That's my story and ..........
    oh no doubt!! Wiggins was the man for Team Sky, and Froome had a job to do as part of the TEAM. In fact some thought Froome crossed the line, INCLUDING Wiggins.


    http://road.cc/content/news/93418-se...r-chris-froome


    Sir Bradley Wiggins nearly quit the 2012 Tour de France – a race that ended with him becoming the first British winner of the event – after believing team mate Chris Froome had “stabbed him in the back,” according to Sean Yates, Team Sky’s sports director on the race.
    The claim, made in Yates’s autobiography, relates to Stage 11 of the race, which finished on the summit of La Toussuire, when Froome rode off ahead of Wiggins around 4km from the end of the stage, only slowing down after Yates ordered him to do so through his radio earpiece.
    The incident gave rise to the infamous ‘WAG Wars’ on Twitter in which Wiggins’ wife Cath and Froome’s girlfriend Michelle Cound, now his fiancée, each sought to fight their respective partners’ corner.
    According to The Times [£], in his book, Yates reveals that following the stage, Wiggins sent a text message saying, “I think it would be better for everyone if I went home.”
    Going into that stage, Wiggins led the race by 2 minutes 3 seconds from Froome, with Liquigas-Cannondale rider Vincenzo Nibali a further 18 seconds back in third place. They would occupy the same positions on the final podium in Paris.
    Froome insists that with defending champion Cadel Evans in trouble, and Nibali up the road, he was simply trying to consolidate his second place overall.
    Wiggins himself has said that the episode left him shaken and that he considered abandoning the race, and Yates’s recollection of events confirms that was no idle boast after the event, but a very real prospect at the time.



    According to The Times, in his book Yates says that it was only thanks to him and team principal Sir Dave Brailsford that Wiggins was dissuaded from leaving the race, adding that he “felt like Froomey had stabbed him in the back.”
    Yates, who left Team Sky last October citing health and personal reasons said that before the stage, the team’s tactics envisaged Froome being permitted to attack inside the final half kilometre.
    He maintained that Froome continued to seek permission to go on the attack prior to that point in the stage, however, and added that Brailsford, whom he says has a “dislike of confrontation” did not take the day’s events up with Froome after the stage.
    Wiggins, of course, would go on to win the race while Froome, runner-up last year, won the 100th edition of the race in July this year. Less than a fortnight after Wiggins’ victory, he would win the time trial at the London Olympics, with Froome taking bronze.
    For Wiggins, the BBC Sports Personality of the Year title would follow, as well as a knighthood in the New Year’s Honours List, and he will forever listed in the record books as the first Briton to win the Tour de France.
    Earlier this year, despite Sky’s insistence that Froome was the designated leader for the 2013 edition, Wiggins said that he would seek to defend his title and try and become the first man to complete a Giro d’Italia and Tour de France double since the late Marco Pantani in 1998.
    Illness forced him out of the Giro halfway through, however, and with almost four weeks remaining until the Tour started on Corsica, Team Sky confirmed he would not be selected for the Tour, citing his recovery from a knee injury – something many viewed as a convenient expedience.
    Yates’s departure from Team Sky in October last year coincided with the fallout from the United States Anti-Doping Agency’s publication of its Reasoned Decision in the Lance Armstrong case which saw fellow sports director Stephen De Jongh and race coach Bobby Julich also depart the British WorldTour team.
    Speaking to The Times, Yates revealed that he is not impressed with Sky’s current management and that the only member of the team set-up he is still close to is sports director Nicolas Portal.
    “Nicolas rings me for advice because I’ve been there, done that,” he explained.
    “To be brutally honest, there is no one at Sky who knows much about bike riding.
    “In general, this year especially, the guys running the team don’t know enough about bike-riding and a lot of the riders went into the Tour overtired. They are made to race too much, too long, too hard.”
    He added that he had been offered a role with another top team, but turned it down partly because he can see Froome dominating the sport for the next few years.
    “It was a big team, big money,” he revealed.
    “But, in my opinion, Chris Froome is too good for anyone to unsettle him. If there were cracks in his armour, that would be more motivating.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit16 View Post
    Today's stage went more according to form as the GC contendors were not concerned about the breakaway cyclists as they all were well back in the standings. Rafal Majka went solo for the later part of the race and won the stage. Nibali, last year's winner was the only main contendor to lose any time and I guess We can now quit refering to him as a GC contendor. Tomorrow's stage is more like yesterday's stage with a tough climb at the finish so you might expect some excitement with some attacks ! I see no reason why Froome should feel a need to attack with the nice lead He has. Of course We know he can IF he wants to but it's still a ways to go so why risk it ? Any updated odds and I'll give my thoughts. Any chance to place your wagers on Chris Froome have come and gone JMHO GL

    yup. He has an experienced team around him and he is THE BEST rider out there AND he has a big lead. Only a crash can stop Chris




    here`s teammate Thomas after the brilliant stage 10 performance;

    Thomas responded to reporters who reminded him that he said Team Sky would ride conservatively ahead of stage 10. "Yeah, we were lying. Nah, seriously, we did go into it to be conservative. We knew Movistar would go at the bottom, so we all just stayed patient. As the group was whittling down we still had numbers. We all felt good. Froomie felt really good, so we were like, ‘Well, stuff it, let’s go.’ Froomie said, ‘Let’s smash it then.’ It was perfect.
    "It’s just one mountain stage out of six. So it’s a very good start, unbelievable start, really, but we’re not going to get carried away. We came out of the rest day really well. Some guys might have suffered. Tomorrow could be a different story. We just have to remember ’13, when Froomie was in the front group by himself, and we really messed up. So you can’t take anything for granted. Tomorrow is another day."``
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    Nice insight into the 2012 Tour victory by Wiggins. I think Thursday's stage might be the toughest stage in this year's Tour ! Should be very interesting plus We can watch the Golf also ! These two events break up a boring stretch in Sports for me. GL
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    Joaquim Rodriguez won today's stage as the main contendors once again allowed a breakaway to escape since they were well behind in the GC standings. Chris Froome kept his lead as the top riders all tried to attack and gain some time on the final grueling finish. All the main group finished in a pack with only 1 second difference. In summary, it was another great day for Chris Froome ! Now back to Golf !
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    Stage 13 levels out from the last 3 days but still has some bumps along the way to the finish. Strong Sprinters like Sagan I think can survive as I can't see any real action coming from the GC favorites. I haven't seen any odds posted but the King of the Mountain seems to be the hardest to predict at this point of the race.
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    BMC's Greg Van Avermaet pulled off what seemed like the impossible as He edged Peter Sagan in a thrilling finish ! It looked like the finish was custom made for Sagan but somehow He couldn't quite overtake Greg. The main GC contendors all finished in a group just 7 seconds back so Chris Froome kept his sizable lead. I have been very impressed with Tejay Van Garderen who is in second place and seems to be riding very comfortable with the leaders on every challenging stage. This guy seems to be in top form and He looks to be in great shape to finish on the podium in Paris ! GL and on to the Open !
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    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...e-chris-froome

    French crowds for the most part aren't Sky fans , but getting physical? Stay classy French


    Richie Porte, a key team-mate to the Tour de France leader, Chris Froome, claims he was punched and Team Sky has been subjected to abuse from spectators during the 2015 race.



    Porte says he was struck on the first mountain test of this year’s Tour, stage 10 from Tarbes to La Pierre-Saint-Martin on Tuesday, which Froome won to take a lead of two minutes 52 seconds, an advantage which remains following Friday’s 13th stage to Rodez.
    Froome, the 2013 winner, has been under scrutiny due to his superiority and has been forced to counter claims of cheating. He insists he rides clean but has been subjected to innuendo and interrogations, which Porte railed against on Friday.
    The Australian rider told The Telegraph Cycling Podcast: “I was [punched] in the last 3km. I got a full-on punch. It was the same atmosphere on Alpe d’Huez two years ago. They are so anti whatever we are.
    “Do I deserve to be booed? Does Chris Froome deserve all this? I don’t think so. Maybe in 10 years’ time they’re going to see that these victories are legitimate. It’s a disgrace how some of these people carry on.” Porte approached spectators earlier this week after being abused.
    He added: “It’s a disgrace they say the same thing to Chris Froome. Just because this team has got its act together. We do everything right. Look at the Tour we are having. You can’t question that we are getting stuck in for Froomey.
    “Seven of us at the bottom for him. No other team had that. It’s because we are organised and committed.”
    On the armchair critics Porte added: “They all have their opinions and not the right ones. They just sit on their couch and criticise.”

    Yet Porte said Froome has a relaxed attitude to the comments: “When they were giving him abuse I heard him laugh about it. He’s got a thick skin and you need that in the yellow jersey







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