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Bitcoin could not only revolutionize the online gaming industry, but has the potential to revolutionize the way we use and think about money. Bitcoin could revolutionize the transfer of funds the way the internet revolutionized the transfer of information. Imagine being able to transfer any amount of money to anyone, completely anonymous, with only knowing a public and private set of keys to your bitcoin wallet. There is nothing physical about it, so it's not like gold or cash in that sense. You could get on a plane with just the information in your head, fly to another country, and transfer the funds to anyone you like...with no middlemen or fees involved.

Bitcoin is a digital currency supposedly developed by a person named Satoshi Nakamoto back in 2009. Every payment is recorded in a public ledger. Payments work peer-to-peer, with no centralized authority involved. A bitcoin can be broken down as much as 8 decimal places, with the smallest unit being called a Satoshi. According to wikipedia: Bitcoins are created as a reward for payment processing work in which users offer their computing power to verify and record payments into the public ledger. Called mining, individuals or companies engage in this activity in exchange for transaction fees and newly created bit coins. Besides mining, bitcoins can be obtained in exchange for fiat money, products, and services.

Bitcoin is structured as a deflationary currency. Only a set number of bitcoins can ever be mined into existence, and the more bitcoins that are mined the harder it becomes to mine more. If you would have started mining bitcoin back in 2009, you could easily be a multi-millionaire by now. Some people were lucky enough to do just that and have become bitcoin millionaires. The prices has been extremely volatile over the past year or so, but price stability will only increase with more adoption of the digital currency.

Large retailers such as Dell.com and Overstock.com...along with many others have recently adopted the use of bitcoin. Sites like gyft.com sell all kinds of gift cards for bitcoin, and you can even get a 3% discount when using bitcoin to buy gift cards. The list of retailers accepting bitcoin is growing everyday.

I don't see how the government can shut bitcoin down unless they shut the entire internet down. Sure they can ban banks from dealing with institutions that deal with bitcoins, but with big retailers like Dell, Overstock, and TigerDirect among other getting involved...it gives bitcoin more and more legitimacy. The Winklevoss twins are also creating a Bitcoin ETF that will be traded on the stock exchange.

I buy my bitcoins on Coinbase.com. There are other places you can buy from, but from the research I have done...this seems to be the safest and most secure to use. Just about every retailer adopting bitcoin uses coinbase to instantly convert bitcoin to USD. I would consider them the ****** of bitcoin.

You can also buy bitcoins from people in your area on localbitcoins.com using cash. The website will explain how it works, and many people buy bitcoin this way. It's not as convenient as coinbase, but will allow you to buy bitcoins without giving away your banking information if you're truly worried about it.

I have played poker on sealswithclubs.eu by depositing with bitcoin and withdrawing with bitcoin multiple times. Deposits are usually credited within 20 minutes, and cash outs are usually completed within 12 hours, and many times much faster. I send the funds from my coinbase account, and receive back the same way. You can sell the bitcoins instantly on coinbase, or just keep them in your coinbase account if you're not worried about price fluctuations.

The major risk with Bitcoin is security. You have to think about it like cash in your wallet. There are hackers out there praying on novice bitcoin users. Even with coinbase having the greatest infrastructure and security related to bitcoin, realized that there is a possibility that their site could be hacked and your wallet could be emptied. While this chance is probably extremely low, don't put anything on there that your wouldn't feel comfortable carrying around in your pocket.

The safest way to store bitcoin is with cold storage. It's basically a bitcoin wallet that has never been exposed to the internet or anything online. It's probably too complex to get into with this thread, but you can find out more from the reddit forum below.

If you want to learn more about bitcoin, I would highly recommend subscribing to the reddit bitcoin section r/bitcoin:
http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoin.

Please let me know if anyone has any questions, and I will try to answer the best I can.


 

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If the international bankers &/or central bank isn't involved or doesn't get a piece of the action, they will either crash the bitcoin market or get involved to gain a certain percentage.

I personally invest in stocks & believe the stock market will crash within 1 to 2 years.

I don't know anything about bitcoins......if the market does crash (I'm assuming) how will bitcoin survive?
 

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Also, I'm assuming drug dealers, etc...& anyone doing highly illegal things will use bitcoin to move money.

If I'm not mistaken, you stayed that you can move any amount of money through their system. Is that to say you could send say $5 million to a friend w/o anyone else knowing?

Seems like botcoin is an alternative to the central banks .......local banks that are controlled by the feds. Which is a good thing but its on its infancy stage & can be penetrated by hackers to wipe out accounts.
 

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The scenario of banks crashing bitcoin has been discussed numerous times on the bitcoin subreddit. The way bitcoin is structured, I don't see how it's possible. The only thing governments could do is forbid banking institutions from dealing with bitcoin. That wouldn't shut down bitcoin though because people can still use bitcoin transactions through the internet. It's like p2p file sharing. The government can't stop that without shutting down the internet entirely, which would be insanity. With all the money that has been printed since the last meltdown, if the velocity of money ever increases, and inflation fears rise, that will only create a favorable scenario for bitcoin.

If the international bankers &/or central bank isn't involved or doesn't get a piece of the action, they will either crash the bitcoin market or get involved to gain a certain percentage.

I personally invest in stocks & believe the stock market will crash within 1 to 2 years.

I don't know anything about bitcoins......if the market does crash (I'm assuming) how will bitcoin survive?
 

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Drug dealers can use cash like USD's to transact as well. Does that mean we should ban dollars?

It is true that you can transfer $5 million to a friend with no fees and without anyone else knowing. All you need to know is their anonymous wallet address.

Also, I'm assuming drug dealers, etc...& anyone doing highly illegal things will use bitcoin to move money.

If I'm not mistaken, you stayed that you can move any amount of money through their system. Is that to say you could send say $5 million to a friend w/o anyone else knowing?

Seems like botcoin is an alternative to the central banks .......local banks that are controlled by the feds. Which is a good thing but its on its infancy stage & can be penetrated by hackers to wipe out accounts.
 

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If bitcoin really takes off like the internet did, it will be nice. It will be interesting to see if people buying or selling on eBay will take bitcoin because Pay-Pal has high costs as does eBay. People are getting clocked by them & like you stated, no fees for transfer of money with bitcoin. I wonder if bitcoin puts pay-pal out of business.

If you have say $50,000 in your bitcoin wallet & someone jacks into it & steals it, who do you complain to & is there a proper investigation in the robbery? Or do you lose your money & that's it?

Because if its easy for hackers to steal money w/o much policing, well, its a free for all........
 

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To say Bitcoin is "completely anonymous" can be misleading. Yes, your name is not associated with your Bitcoin transactions but if you used your Bitcoin address to deposit to a known entity like Coinbase.com or an exchange like Cryptsy.com or Mintpal.com and you used your real name at any of those sites then any transaction you used with that Bitcoin address could be traced to you.


Also, Bitcoin addresses can be linked to the IP address your computer uses to access the Internet. People who use Bitcoin for illegal purposes, as well as for legitimate purposes who just want to be anonymous, typically use a network like the Tor network to keep their IP address masked.


Here is a good web site you can use to protect your privacy when using Bitcoin:


https://bitcoin.org/en/protect-your-privacy
 

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Drug dealers can use cash like USD's to transact as well. Does that mean we should ban dollars?

It is true that you can transfer $5 million to a friend with no fees and without anyone else knowing. All you need to know is their anonymous wallet address.

I'll never forget the first time I transferred Bitcoins from my Coinbase.com account to my local Bitcoin wallet on my personal computer. I didn't have to get anyone's approval (like at a bank). No one had to facilitate the transfer. All it cost was a very low Bitcoin fee. It was something like 0.0001 Bitcoin which amounts to about 6 cents at today's Bitcoin price. Yes, you read that right, only 6 cents for the transaction!
 

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If you have $50,000 in your bitcoin wallet, and it gets hacked you really have no recourse at this point. It would be like walking around with $50,000 cash in your personal wallet and having it stolen. If you keep your bitcoins in cold storage like a paper wallet, then there is no way it can get hacked. Most people who deal with a lot of bitcoin use a cold wallet for a major amount of bitcoin and transfer smaller amounts to an online wallet like coinbase.

bitcoinarmory.com has the best option for cold storage that I have seen. They have a tutorial on how you can sign transactions offline so no one will be able get your cold storage address.

Insured bitcoin accounts are just in the infancy stages right now, and I'm sure it's only going to blow up in the next few years. Think of where the internet is now compared to 15 years ago. I think bitcoin is in that same stage of development. There are so many possibilities people haven't even thought of yet.

If bitcoin really takes off like the internet did, it will be nice. It will be interesting to see if people buying or selling on eBay will take bitcoin because Pay-Pal has high costs as does eBay. People are getting clocked by them & like you stated, no fees for transfer of money with bitcoin. I wonder if bitcoin puts pay-pal out of business.

If you have say $50,000 in your bitcoin wallet & someone jacks into it & steals it, who do you complain to & is there a proper investigation in the robbery? Or do you lose your money & that's it?

Because if its easy for hackers to steal money w/o much policing, well, its a free for all........
 

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You have me thinking about investing in bitcoin.......

1 bitcoin = $621.96


I think I'm late to the party......wasn't 1 bitcoin worth like $20 at one point several years ago?
 

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I'd like to see a bitcoin fantasy football league get started for this upcoming season w-thumbs!^
 

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Bitcoin is a ponzi. A lot of tears and broken dreams will be in the cards when it goes down for good...BitInstant, Mt Gox...'nuff said
 

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It is possible to steal bitcoins; theft has been documented on numerous occasions. At other times, Bitcoin exchanges have shut down, taking their clients' bitcoins with them. A Wired study showed that 45 percent of Bitcoin exchanges end up closing.[106]

On 19 June 2011, a security breach of the Mt. Gox Bitcoin exchange caused the nominal price of a bitcoin to fraudulently drop to one cent on the Mt. Gox exchange, after a hacker used credentials from a Mt. Gox auditor's compromised computer illegally to transfer a large number of bitcoins to himself. They used the exchange's software to sell them all nominally, creating a massive "ask" order at any price. Within minutes, the price reverted to its correct user-traded value.



A quote above from Wiki
 

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Bitcoin is a ponzi. A lot of tears and broken dreams will be in the cards when it goes down for good...BitInstant, Mt Gox...'nuff said

Totally agree...... they are just fucking tulip bulbs all over again..... except at least you could plant those and get some fucking tulips.
 

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It seems if the central banks/federal reserve can't get their hands on it to be monopolized & controlled by the multi billionaire men running everything, they don't want it around because they're not making money on it. Unless the international bankers get a piece of the action, this wontbbe around as a solid investment & operational.
 

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I guess USD's are a ponzi scheme too. Just a piece of paper worth what people agree to accept for them. Large banking institutions along with other fiat currencies have gone bust throughout history, so I guess we should get rid of them as well.

Bitcoin is a ponzi. A lot of tears and broken dreams will be in the cards when it goes down for good...BitInstant, Mt Gox...'nuff said
 

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