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Not the most unbreakable record in history.
I could see this being beat one day.

If Ichiro would have played his entire career in MLB he would be getting real close right now.


Cy Youngs 511 and Cal Ripken Jr will never get touched.

I don't even think anyone will ever get to 40% of Ripken's total ever again.
 

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Great record. No doubt the guy deserves in the Hall. Don't care if he screwed goats televised on major network.

However... some will disagree and say the Joe D 56 game hit streak was a greater record. You can have a rousing argument over those two.

I would absolutely agree that those two accomplishments are the GREATEST TWO records in all of sports.
 

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Hey Chop.

I hope they shut up about the validity of Ichiro's hits over in Hapeville. Do they even throw overhand in that league? We know a few do based on guys who have come over here. But I get the feeling that some of the pitchers are more like mid-range NCAA pitchers.
 

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Don't completely disagree on Ripken, as some of his starts were bogus and he was obviously just hanging on to the streak.

But..... nobody cares about pitchers..... you better read up Sir. Chop has a very valid point on that one!
 

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Hey Chop.

I hope they shut up about the validity of Ichiro's hits over in Hapeville. Do they even throw overhand in that league? We know a few do based on guys who have come over here. But I get the feeling that some of the pitchers are more like mid-range NCAA pitchers.

Im not even adding his numbers from Japan to make my statement.
Im just adding 8 years of would be MLB stats in his prime that he would have had if he played MLB baseball those 8 years to the numbers he already has now in MLB.

If you do that he would have more then 4256.
 

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Agree. And glad he was over there.

(I still enjoy seeing Americans lead in a few things)
 

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Not the most unbreakable record in history.
I could see this being beat one day.

If Ichiro would have played his entire career in MLB he would be getting real close right now.


Cy Youngs 511 and Cal Ripken Jr will never get touched.

I don't even think anyone will ever get to 40% of Ripken's total ever again.

It's literally impossible for anyone to catch Cy Young's win total.

I've read about him starting both games of a double-header many times in his career...that obviously doesn't happen anymore. But you'd need 25 straight 20-win seasons just to come within touching distance of 511 wins. Most pitchers don't have 25-year careers, and hardly anyone wins 20 games in a season nowadays. Same deal with his 316 losses...no pitcher would last enough games in MLB if they got anywhere near that number.
 

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Right now Ichiro has 2805 MLB hits.
Lets go ahead and say he will end his career with 3000.

He played 8 prime years in Japan.

If he would have played those 8 years in MLB instead averaging just 200 per year which is way below his average during his prime he would have 4600 hits shattering Pete Rose.

If you go above 200 hits per year during his prime and give him closer to what he really averaged he would be getting close to 5000 hits.
He would have blown away pete rose before he turned 35. Pete Rose retired when he was 46
 

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Right now Ichiro has 2805 MLB hits.
Lets go ahead and say he will end his career with 3000.

He played 8 prime years in Japan.

If he would have played those 8 years in MLB instead averaging just 200 per year which is way below his average during his prime he would have 4600 hits shattering Pete Rose.

If you go above 200 hits per year during his prime and give him closer to what he really averaged he would be getting close to 5000 hits.
He would have blown away pete rose before he turned 35. Pete Rose retired when he was 46


At what age did Ichiro start playing in Japan. 11 years old? Or as soon as he could hit the pitching...... same thing.
 

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Most career no-hitters at 7 by the Express I don't think will ever be broken. Mofome posted thinking Strasburg was going to come close, I backed into a lot of math that basically all but proved it would be nearly impossible to get to that number given how many complete games a pitcher would need to throw, how many IP/year, GS/year, CG/year, pitch counts, etc.

Also most career shutouts. Walter Johnson had 110. Clayton Kershaw has 9 in seven years. Averaging 5 shutouts a year over 22 seasons is damn near impossible.

Also I disagree about the irrelvancy of Cal's record (perhaps biased as an O's fan) but anyone who's played a sport competitively has probably not played 500 consecutive games let alone 2600+. The story about him tearing up his torso and still head-first sliding into 3rd and ripping out his stitches is an awesome one. I don't care if he wasn't the greatest ball player ever, you don't tweak an ankle or pull a hammy once and sit out? Reason people think this guy was one of the saviors of baseball back in the day.


I still think this is a very interesting discussion. But.... we need to just agree that you can't compare records from one era into another. Baseball has so much respect for earlier stats and keeps such meticulous records. Yet from one era to the next.... some parts become almost a completely different game.
 

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At what age did Ichiro start playing in Japan. 11 years old? Or as soon as he could hit the pitching...... same thing.

I just looked it up. Don't know how old he was but did find out he played professionally 9 years in Japan not 8.
So this would give him even more hits that I showed in my other post if you give him 9MLB years instead of 8.
 

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Ricky Henderson's stolen bases 1406, most stolen bases in season 130, most runs scored 2295.....
 

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