Pedro Martinez said that Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. Do you agree?

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Pedro Martinez said that Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. Do you agr

  • Yes, on both

    Votes: 17 51.5%
  • Yes, Bonds only

    Votes: 1 3.0%
  • Yes, Clemens only

    Votes: 1 3.0%
  • No

    Votes: 14 42.4%

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Yes, because especially in Clemens case, no proof ever existed that they cheated. Plus where is the 100% full proof that taking steroids actually helped their numbers. Roger was HOF material his entire career.
 

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not a chance. Even my favorite player all time doesn't belong there. Pete Rose.
 

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100% agree
 

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What did he do bad on the playing field ? I disagree with this one, and he is nowhere near my Favorite
I assume you mean Rose? He didn't do anything bad on the playing field. I never said he did. Did I? If I did, I was drunk and take it back.
 

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The baseball HOF is it's own entity, they go by the sportswriters who ALL hold grudges and don't let players in right away even though they deserve it.
Sportswriters for the most part suck donkey balls. If I was a player I wouldn't give two shits if I was in our not. You get paid for being great. All those guys got paid big time.

That means way more than being inducted into a hall where people who have never played vote you in. Does that make any sense?
 

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But they decided to cheat.

Why would you want to reward them?

the league didn't do anything to stop it. They wanted these results and when the hammer came down, they got out the way. Everyone that played in that era gets a pass from me because the league wasn't doing anything to stop it...


and Frankly, the league was more entertaining then...
 

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weird.... all votes in the poll is either "yes" on both or "no" on both
 

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the league didn't do anything to stop it. They wanted these results and when the hammer came down, they got out the way. Everyone that played in that era gets a pass from me because the league wasn't doing anything to stop it...


and Frankly, the league was more entertaining then...
If in your Senior year in High School a teacher who wants to look good let's you cheat on every test, are you going to?

I expect a large # of the people on this forum to say yes, but I wouldn't.

Say that "A" that you received allowed you to make The National Honor Society, how would you feel about taking that award with your family and children looking on 5 years after graduation?

I wouldn't be able to accept it.....but then again I wouldn't have cheated on every test to excel in the first place.
 

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If in your Senior year in High School a teacher who wants to look good let's you cheat on every test, are you going to?

I expect a large # of the people on this forum to say yes, but I wouldn't.

Say that "A" that you received allowed you to make The National Honor Society, how would you feel about taking that award with your family and children looking on 5 years after graduation?

I wouldn't be able to accept it.....but then again I wouldn't have cheated on every test to excel in the first place.

+1
 

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do steroids all you want. Get suspended, comeback and hit the ball 20 miles or pitch until you are 50, get suspended, rinse and repeat for all I care and I might even be in awe of what you do ...... put a syringe or * beside your stats for all eternity BUT but when it comes getting into the HOL ... not a chance in hell. NEVER!
 

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do steroids all you want. Get suspended, comeback and hit the ball 20 miles or pitch until you are 50, get suspended, rinse and repeat for all I care and I might even be in awe of what you do ...... put a syringe or * beside your stats for all eternity BUT but when it comes getting into the HOL ... not a chance in hell. NEVER!

Let's get this straight......they cheat to excel, they are rewarded with insane amounts of money, they extend their careers, accept all of the accolades, they lie about all of this, then they want us to reward them with a permanent place in the MLB Hall of Fame ?

Nope, what kind of example is that to set?
 
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I base everything on what they did without juice; Bods is automatic, Clemens is close to the line but I'd put him in.
 

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Let's get this straight......they cheat to excel, they are rewarded with insane amounts of money, they extend their careers, accept all of the accolades, they lie about all of this, then they want us to reward them with a permanent place in the MLB Hall of Fame ?

Nope, what kind of example is that to set?
they are always gonna cheat. All I am saying is they don't belong in the HOF if they do get caught. Bonds hit the most homers ever so listing that in the record books can still happen imo but with an * or a syringe next to his name.
 

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